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Re: NY school phone ban has made lunch loud again

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Post by HeinzStuckeIt »

mister_mort wrote: post #39
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even then, individual screens is isolating. Collapsing in front of the TV with the family was still quality time enjoying something together.

For a lot of young people the screen is social - the equivalent of the long after-school phonecalls from the before times. Be it games or just Discord, it's still comms.

The screen is also a continual, addictive flow of short video clips that are largely designed to sell product, stoke FOMO, make people feel inadequate about beauty, etc.

Observe young people using their phones, and you can see the social use is often just occasionally switching from TikTok to a chat app, dashing off a one-line message, and then going right back to TikTok. Big difference from having actual long phone conversations with friends after school.

Re: NY school phone ban has made lunch loud again

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Post by rootusrootus »

amelius wrote: post #35
everdrive wrote: post #2

Hopefully society continues to develop healthy norms with regard to this sort of technology. Collectively it's taken us a while, but I think people generally are starting to get the picture. Smartphones are bad in a wide variety of ways, but even when people miss some of the nuance I think we can make progress regarding the minimization of their usage.

Some people will slap a label like "liberal" on "using my smartphone whenever the hell I want". And then people will think that's how it should be.

An electronic version of coal rolling. "You can't tell me this is unhealthy, and I'm going to prove it!"

Re: NY school phone ban has made lunch loud again

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Post by Braxton1980 »

amelius wrote: post #35
everdrive wrote: post #2

Hopefully society continues to develop healthy norms with regard to this sort of technology. Collectively it's taken us a while, but I think people generally are starting to get the picture. Smartphones are bad in a wide variety of ways, but even when people miss some of the nuance I think we can make progress regarding the minimization of their usage.

Some people will slap a label like "liberal" on "using my smartphone whenever the hell I want". And then people will think that's how it should be.

Sounds more like "freedom" which New York has taken away with some big government regulations.

/S

Re: NY school phone ban has made lunch loud again

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Post by bemmu » 

  Senior Raya Osagie, 16, said she has to “think more in class” because she used to Google answers or use artificial intelligence. “Now when we get computers, I actually have to [do] deep research instead of going straight to AI,” she said.
This kind of blew my mind a bit, as I had always imagined AI being used to do homework, hadn't occurred to me it could be used during a class as well.

Re: NY school phone ban has made lunch loud again

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Post by JJMcJ »

IAmBroom wrote: post #12
bfkwlfkjf wrote: post #9

The school president is 17?

Yes, the president of the student-elected body of mostly-powerless "school government."

The student-elected body is often called the Student Council.

Sometimes each grade level will have a class president.

Varies from school to school for the details.

Re: NY school phone ban has made lunch loud again

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Post by [deleted] »

browningstreet wrote: post #17
jollyllama wrote: post #15

I don't think smartphones should be allowed in schools but as someone who was dumbfounded by the lunchtime cacophony of my peers, I wouldn't lead with that as a triumph.

Those of us who hate the noise of boisterous social conversation are the outliers, but it is a sign of their healthy social environment. I personally was always able to find a quiet spot. My early dinner, empty restaurant habit is the adult persistence of my teenage preferences, and I don't expect my personal tolerance to be their norm.

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Re: NY school phone ban has made lunch loud again

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Post by vel0city »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #34
AndrewDucker wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It varies a lot. My kids will run around and play given the opportunity, but when they arrive home at 6pm from after-school club, completely exhausted, I think it's fair that they get to collapse in front of a screen for a bit.

Even then, individual screens is isolating. Collapsing in front of the TV with the family was still quality time enjoying something together.

Individual screens can be isolating, they can also be somewhat social. I agree, not a complete replacement for other social activities for sure. But, as a kid with internet connected videogames growing up, those internet connected games kept me playing with friends from school and other groups even if we weren't able to physically get together that evening.

Meanwhile, my brother would often go dig in and read a fiction book in isolation. Which is fine and great and all. I'm definitely not taking a dig at reading a book in any way. But, its not like only screens lead to isolation. There's plenty of tasks one can do at home that then become isolating.

Re: NY school phone ban has made lunch loud again

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Post by donohoe »

tootie wrote: post #32

So I have eye witness accounts of this lunchroom saying that's not true. The lunchroom was deafeningly loud before the ban. This school is also a magnet school with only high-performing kids who did not suffer from distraction problems and who actively made use of phones during class for classwork.

I have a kid in a non-magnet HS and one in a magnet HS (in NYC). This article isn't off-the-mark but I would say there will always be variations by school.
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