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I have been using firefox on linux for a little more than a decade now and haven't realize I was missing on anything so I guess it's probably not a real problem.
Netflix et al work on Linux but are limited to 480p.
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True open source web browsers on Windows, and MacOS, are dead in the water. This is because of the lack of Widevine CDM, and the majority of people wanting to stream stuff using services like Tidal, Netflix and Spotify. They will also want to use a single browser for everything, which in practice means Edge, Chrome, Firefox or Safari. Ladybird will very likely not have access to Widevine, because of the cost, require…
I don't know the usage numbers so I might be way off, but with Smart TVs becoming a more common thing I can't remember the last time I tried to stream video on my computer. Am I in the minority here? Do we have stats on what the breakdown of streaming traffic is by Mobile / TV / Desktop?
Also I believe a lot of households have a single TV and the rest of the household use a laptop to stream from anywhere in the house.
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I have been using firefox on linux for a little more than a decade now and haven't realize I was missing on anything so I guess it's probably not a real problem.
Netflix et al work on Linux but are limited to 480p.
Which is not a big deal when you are watching on a laptop screen.or via a projector.
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They've started to gradually use Swift in the last year or so.
There still isn't a solid plan, which worries me a bit. This is going to end up as a rewrite of a rewrite. That's not to say it isn't realistic, but it's definitely going to be interesting. I also think Swift will bring in more contributors
Why are you worried? Isn't the development journey the whole raison d'être of Ladybird?
While I truly admire how much progress they’ve made, and respect that everyone should pursue whatever they feel like doing with their time, it still feels to me like such a waste that it’s not written in a modern memory safe language. I fear it’s ultimately going to be the most promising, least safe browser to use. But hey, I want to be proven wrong, so I still gave them some money…
They've started to gradually use Swift in the last year or so.
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True open source web browsers on Windows, and MacOS, are dead in the water. This is because of the lack of Widevine CDM, and the majority of people wanting to stream stuff using services like Tidal, Netflix and Spotify. They will also want to use a single browser for everything, which in practice means Edge, Chrome, Firefox or Safari. Ladybird will very likely not have access to Widevine, because of the cost, require…
Does Widevine CDM work on Firefox on Linux? If so, why would Google allow this but not for other OSS browsers?
It does, but it's L3-only (software-based), not L1 (hardware-based) [0]. Streaming providers can then decide which content they'll let you access depending on the level. Speaking from experience, some providers work perfectly (full HD content with no issues), others only give you a really low-resolution stream, and others refuse to work entirely.
> If so, why would Google allow this but not for other OSS browsers?
When EME [1] was first released, Firefox had ~10% market share, and it would look pretty bad for Google to exclude another major browser maker. Smaller browsers don't have the political clout necessary to convince Google to give them access.
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widevine#Architecture
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encrypted_Media_Extensions
I always wonder why there are no download links. Alpha, beta, something at least.
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I don't know about you but I am very sad that I can't really recommend a browser not made by evil-mega-corp (or their associates) to friends and family because for some stupid reason that I can't explain to them, they aren't allowed to view high quality streaming video with it.
“It doesn’t work with Netflix, but I just open Chrome when I want that” is that really so hard? DRM is not a good thing
I think many people will rather just use the 1 thing that does everything perfectly well, rather than switch back and forth between two browsers because one is slightly better "most of the time" but also completely unusable some of the time.
For me, I am thrilled to be able to make Ladybird my main browser eventually, and consume my streaming in other apps and browsers.