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EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by adzm »

purrcat259 wrote: post #16
adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

I read, write and speak Maltese, AMA if you are curious about the language.

I'm actually really curious about everyday usage of the language; is code switching between English and Maltese more common than Maltese on its own? I've seen a few online communities where the vocabulary switches between Maltese and English very often which is interesting but I wonder how much of that is just online / written versus everyday speech.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by adzm »

jim180 wrote: post #22
adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

Lithuanian and Latvian are Baltic languages. Nothing to do with Slavic...

I was thinking about separating the two groups when I was writing this but was afraid of getting too verbose, though in retrospect that probably would have made more sense regardless of the historical lineage. My apologies if this came off as inconsiderate.

I updated my original comment, and learned a good amount about that dispute as a result, so thanks for calling it out.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by przemub »

Vinnl wrote: post #35
adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

Tomorrow there are elections in the Netherlands, and two parties are proposing adding Frysian to that list: https://neerlandistiek.nl/2025/10/kies-voor-taal/ Best get to retraining those models.

Each EU country nominates one official language for the EU, otherwise we'd have Catalan, Breton, Kashubian and many more.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by rvz »

As expected, Europe finally catches up to 2024 and launches an LLM that barely competes against the heavyweights.

The US and China are running rings around Europe.

Mistral is an exception as it was funded by US VCs and they are a great example showing that without VC funding, Mistral would have been begging to the EU for a microsopic grant to train a LLM worse than Llama.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by lossolo »

loandbehold wrote: post #15
srameshc wrote: post #7

I was thinking the same, why are so many superior models coming from only countries like US and China. And why are European countries not in the list other than France with Mistral. Why are so few companies in India, Japan, South Korea even close to a promising new model like what Chinese companies did ?

Because training frontier model is expensive and only US and China have capital structure to raise tens of billions of dollars to do it.

You can easily fit below 10 billion for the whole datacenter, then you only pay for electricity + maintenance + staff. 100k GPUs cost a few billion USD, that's more than enough to train frontier models, run experiments, and serve models in the EU to start. Look at what xAI did and how much it cost them and it's more expensive to do in US than in EU.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by asveikau »

Telaneo wrote: post #27
jim180 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lithuanian and Latvian are Baltic languages. Nothing to do with Slavic...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balto-Slavic_languages

See the section "historical dispute".

I think some people get touchy about them being lumped together if their last period of commonality (per the article) was 1400 BCE. For comparison, I believe all the Slavic languages were mutually intelligible around 1200 AD. But much more recently than this, in the last few centuries, there have been notable attempts by east slavs to absorb the Baltic language cultures and deny them.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by raverbashing »

melvinmelih wrote: post #20
loandbehold wrote: post #10

Aren't all frontier models already able to use all these languages? Support for specific languages doesn't need to be built in, LLMs support all languages because they are trained on multilingual data.

> because they are trained on multilingual data But they were not trained on government-sanctioned homegrown EU data.

> But they were not trained on government-sanctioned homegrown EU data.

If none of the LLM makers used the very big corpus of EU multilingual data I have an EU regulation bridge to sell it to you

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by sigmar »

Vinnl wrote: post #35
adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

Tomorrow there are elections in the Netherlands, and two parties are proposing adding Frysian to that list: https://neerlandistiek.nl/2025/10/kies-voor-taal/ Best get to retraining those models.

Should be noted- the Netherlands can't unilaterally make changes. Spain has been trying to push for languages to be added and hasn't had luck.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by tonyhart7 »

melvinmelih wrote: post #20
loandbehold wrote: post #10

Aren't all frontier models already able to use all these languages? Support for specific languages doesn't need to be built in, LLMs support all languages because they are trained on multilingual data.

> because they are trained on multilingual data But they were not trained on government-sanctioned homegrown EU data.

"But they were not trained on government-sanctioned homegrown EU data."

ok what are you implying on this

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