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PSF has withdrawn $1.5M proposal to US Government grant program

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Re: PSF has withdrawn $1.5M proposal to US Government grant program

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The PSF and several other organizations that provide public package registries wrote an open letter [1] announcing a joint effort to make this situation more sustainable. I'll be interested to see where it goes. [1]: https://openssf.org/blog/2025/09/23/open-infrastructure-is-n...

Thanks! I want to bring this up as a discussion point when I get the chance at work. I can't find a date on this letter - is it recent?

It says "September 23, 2025" right at the top.

Re: PSF has withdrawn $1.5M proposal to US Government grant program

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This seems very un-American. The government dictating how you run your business ? > “do not, and will not during the term of this financial assistance award, operate any programs that advance or promote DEI, or discriminatory equity ideology in violation of Federal anti-discrimination laws.” Is that even legal to add such an arbitrary and opinionated reason to a government grant? I applaud them for taking a stand, it…

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Re: PSF has withdrawn $1.5M proposal to US Government grant program

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If you read

> support and facilitate the growth of a diverse and international community of Python programmers

as a racist statement, you need to step back and re-evaluate things.

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This seems very un-American. The government dictating how you run your business ? > “do not, and will not during the term of this financial assistance award, operate any programs that advance or promote DEI, or discriminatory equity ideology in violation of Federal anti-discrimination laws.” Is that even legal to add such an arbitrary and opinionated reason to a government grant? I applaud them for taking a stand, it…

Anti-DEI forces, once in power, turn out not to favor putative “diversity of opinion” after all.

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This isn't good for the PSF, but if these "poison pill" terms are a pattern that applies to all NSF and (presumably) other government research funding, the entire state of modern scientific research is at risk. Regardless of how you, as an individual, might feel about "DEI," imposing onerous political terms on scientific grants harms everyone in the long term.

Also, I don't get that an Organization such as the PSF operates at a $5 million dollar budget which quite arguably provides Billions or even Trillions in revenue across the Tech sector.

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If you read > support and facilitate the growth of a diverse and international community of Python programmers as a racist statement, you need to step back and re-evaluate things.

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Re: PSF has withdrawn $1.5M proposal to US Government grant program

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This seems very un-American. The government dictating how you run your business ? > “do not, and will not during the term of this financial assistance award, operate any programs that advance or promote DEI, or discriminatory equity ideology in violation of Federal anti-discrimination laws.” Is that even legal to add such an arbitrary and opinionated reason to a government grant? I applaud them for taking a stand, it…

> "[yadda yadda yadda] in violation of Federal anti-discrimination laws."

Should not be a new or surprising statement at all in this type of thing, let alone a question of if it's un-American.

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