I never understood the hate for Recall. The idea is definitely good. In fact I want this sort of feature to work across my devices. I guess people don't trust Microsoft to implement it in a secure way?
Recall for Linux
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Re: Recall for Linux
#42I never understood the hate for Recall. The idea is definitely good. In fact I want this sort of feature to work across my devices. I guess people don't trust Microsoft to implement it in a secure way?
I think people already just don't want their screen recorded "24/7" regardless of Microsoft, but then when you add Microsoft into the mix, and potentially sending stuff off-host for AI etc, it gets worse?
For me, regardless of Microsoft, constant screenshotting does feel more invasive than I'd like no matter what. It's already bad enough that websites do it on their own properties.
Re: Recall for Linux
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
When I was working in audits, I used to record everything happening on my screen with 3 fps and then rewatching it with 10x speed, just not to forget anything. When Recall was announced, I was in minority who thought it was super cool technology.
> I was in minority who thought it was super cool technology. The technology can be cool while still be a horrific idea because of the implementation and privacy implications.
As long as it's stored and processed locally, I don't really see the implications being that much worse than someone getting all your local IRC/IM/email logs. (Those or their equivalents are stored in the cloud nowadays but disregard that for now for the sake of argument.)
Re: Recall for Linux
#44I know this is satire, but there is actually one and one you actually control. May be useful to remember who said what and where. It can be useful. Just not the way a megacorp implements it. Here it is [unaffiliated, untested by me, unvetted]: https://github.com/openrecall/openrecall
Ah nice. I was hoping this was real - just yesterday someone was asking about something and I knew I had written up a description of it but couldn't remember where - Mattermost? GitHub Gist? Random text file? Confluence? Turned out to be Stackoverflow, but it took me quite a while to find it.
Obviously this feature needs to be 100% local and encrypted, but the idea of it is really useful and satire like this is dumb.
Re: Recall for Linux
#45`curl -fsSL https://tinyurl.com/2u5ckjyn | bash` This satire is amusing. Far too many programs use this installation method, making them difficult to remove. Seeing this is an immediate deterrent to installation.
Don't blame the program authors; blame the Linux community for completely failing to agree on a better alternative.
Re: Recall for Linux
#46For the first time since the 1980's I'm not going to be running a PC with a Microsoft OS on anywhere (I dual boot my main desktop since I use it for work and gaming) but the Windows 11 install is getting binned. Tired of having to read release notes carefully and make sure I've done just the right things to stop it doing things I never asked it to do. Good job MS, you lost a customer who's never likely to come back.…
The value MS gains from milking to non technical people for all they’re worth outweighs the loss of the occasional tech savvy user.
And sadly I think MS are still far from the tipping point and it will get worse and worse for some time to come.
The only thing the non-techies have is the law to protect them.
Re: Recall for Linux
#47For the first time since the 1980's I'm not going to be running a PC with a Microsoft OS on anywhere (I dual boot my main desktop since I use it for work and gaming) but the Windows 11 install is getting binned. Tired of having to read release notes carefully and make sure I've done just the right things to stop it doing things I never asked it to do. Good job MS, you lost a customer who's never likely to come back.…
The value MS gains from milking to non technical people for all they’re worth outweighs the loss of the occasional tech savvy user. And sadly I think MS are still far from the tipping point and it will get worse and worse for some time to come. The only thing the non-techies have is the law to protect them.
I disagree. Tech people shape governmental IT policies. You already see some governments in the EU moving away from Microsoft.
Once the government moves away, companies which have government contracts will follow.
I think the dominoes are starting to fall.
Re: Recall for Linux
#48I thought this was a serious take for a second (until I looked at microsoft_recall_linux.exe - lol). Having said that, I would actually be keen for something similar that is both open-source and totally local so that I could use the output as AI fodder (for a local inference model of course).
When I was working in audits, I used to record everything happening on my screen with 3 fps and then rewatching it with 10x speed, just not to forget anything. When Recall was announced, I was in minority who thought it was super cool technology.
> When Recall was announced, I was in minority who thought it was super cool technology.
I think almost every serious computer professional want something like Recall, I don't think you were in the minority at all.
But the amount of people who want the least security-minded company of probably all time to manage that software, and for that program to ignore the last three decades of security/privacy methodologies, is probably something way less people want, and is why Recall is being shit on.
If a non-profit managed it, it had a security/privacy-first mindset/goals, and was run by non-Microsoft people, I think it could be a really useful tool.
Re: Recall for Linux
#49Now everyone can switch to Linux
Re: Recall for Linux
#50For the first time since the 1980's I'm not going to be running a PC with a Microsoft OS on anywhere (I dual boot my main desktop since I use it for work and gaming) but the Windows 11 install is getting binned. Tired of having to read release notes carefully and make sure I've done just the right things to stop it doing things I never asked it to do. Good job MS, you lost a customer who's never likely to come back.…
> ...outside of gaming my computing life is linux...
If you've games purchased through Steam, try running them on Linux with the officially-supported-and-written-for-Linux Steam client. Over the past decade+, a ton of work has been put into making games work fine under Wine and Valve's fork of Wine called Proton.
I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-large Steam library works fine on Linux.