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Britain's most tattooed man says UK's age check told him to "remove his face"

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Add this to: Falsehoods lawmakers believe about faces.

Also: Falsehoods lawmakers believe about bodies. Conservative politicians tend to be transphobic, because they can't understand that biology makes exceptions.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not well. "When Face Recognition Doesn’t Know Your Face Is a Face An estimated 100 million people live with facial differences. As face recognition tech becomes widespread, some say they’re getting blocked from accessing essential systems and services." https://www.wired.com/story/when-face-recognition-doesnt-kno... Posted to HN yesterday at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45667472 . No comments.

> Posted to HN yesterday [...] No comments. I wonder if that is partially because many (like myself) aren't subscribers and can't read the article.

I am not a subscriber. In LibreWolf I went to the page then switched to reader mode.

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I wonder how it might affect people with medical conditions that make their faces look unusual. If the law only applies to pornography, most people in that situation might not want to go talk to a journalist about it.

Then they supply govt. ID.

The law does not mandate check via camera.

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> "doesn't work on a man that looks more like an injured smurf than a human"

What the actual fuck is up with this statement? Human faces are complex, there are so many different cultures and all kinds of complex body modifications (including facial tattoos) have a rich history going back thousands of years. Some shitty cobbled together AI not being able to recognize that is the real problem. Not the facial tattoos. And the injured smurf comment was completely uncalled for.

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> "doesn't work on a man that looks more like an injured smurf than a human" What the actual fuck is up with this statement? Human faces are complex, there are so many different cultures and all kinds of complex body modifications (including facial tattoos) have a rich history going back thousands of years. Some shitty cobbled together AI not being able to recognize that is the real problem. Not the facial tattoos. A…

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> "doesn't work on a man that looks more like an injured smurf than a human" What the actual fuck is up with this statement? Human faces are complex, there are so many different cultures and all kinds of complex body modifications (including facial tattoos) have a rich history going back thousands of years. Some shitty cobbled together AI not being able to recognize that is the real problem. Not the facial tattoos. A…

Sorry, but the pure-black eyes, bright blue skin with red patterns gave me a visceral response. In his own words, people are afraid to sit next to him on the bus, so I'm hardly the only person who had such a reaction to his appearance. This is more than just "facial tattoos" or body mods, this is quite literally an extreme case.

I believe anyone should be able to alter their appearance in any way they want, but if you choose to ink your skin to be more blue than skin-tone (linked articles have pictures without the Instagram filter that make the blue-ness much more clear, like https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/article34897342.ece/ALTERNATES/...), you should not be surprised when people and people-made programs think you're wearing a costume. This isn't just an AI program, according to the articles about him, he's had the same issues with real people at airports.

The core of the problem still remains the same; AI is not capable of reliably recognising people (kids used video game characters to bypass age verification), let alone determine their age reliably, and I believe most of the OSA should be abolished.

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