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Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by randycupertino »

hedora wrote: post #36

I’ve been using tidal since forever because Spotify’s recommendations were crap, and Apple Music’s weren’t good. I think I’ve heard one AI slop thing in my daily discovery queue, once. It’s hard to say if that one track was ai slop or not, given my tastes (I downloaded Poppy, Music to Scream To, for example).

Spotify recommended me a song I kind of liked "What's the Matter with John Brown" by a band called The Roux and when I googled it to get more info about the band I found a thread on reddit /r/music discussing whether or not it was AI music.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AI_Music/comments/1m522g2/is_this_a...

I still haven't figured out if it's AI or not but there is no info about the band online, touring show details, photos etc, so I am leaning towards it is a fake AI band.

It would be nice if AI-music was watermarked in some way so we could filter it out.

For audible (for now, until Audible kills it!) there is a chrome and firefox extension called "devirtualizer" that removes all AI-narrated books from your results: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/devirtualizeaudible...

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by gs17 »

I had no idea how bad it had gotten, since none of it was being shown to me. Then a friend sent me his AI music on Spotify, I listened, and my recommendations were all AI for my usual genres suddenly. It's like they have a flag for your account that says "we can save money, this guy will listen to the cheap stuff".

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by MadVikingGod »

The AI songs do suck, but what's even worse is that I can't block artists on Spotify or YouTube. My only recourse was to down vote each song individually, which didn't prevent the songs from showing up, just "Showed my preference".

I don't know what service is safe, but it seems like the incentives for the companies is not to direct me to what I want, real people performing music.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by ebilodeau »

MadVikingGod wrote: post #43

The AI songs do suck, but what's even worse is that I can't block artists on Spotify or YouTube. My only recourse was to down vote each song individually, which didn't prevent the songs from showing up, just "Showed my preference". I don't know what service is safe, but it seems like the incentives for the companies is not to direct me to what I want, real people performing music.

In Spotify, the artist page should have a “don’t play this artist” option under the 3-dot menu.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by randycupertino »

WXLCKNO wrote: post #9
jsheard wrote: post #4

The same thing is happening on YouTube, my recs are stuffed full of obviously AI generated music compilations lately. It's obvious from the volume those channels are posting (often ~3 hours of "new" music every single day) that little to no curation is happening, it's just elemental slop straight from the firehose.

Agreed, on YouTube the AI slop music has been trending even more. I hadn't experienced it on Spotify however and only last month they had stated that AI music would be tagged as such.

I've had so many AI-created movie trailers on youtube lately it is so annoying. Just yesterday I searched for an upcoming movie "The Chronology of Water" trailer and get this fake ai trailer which I watched unknowingly thinking "wow this trailer sucks" just to later find the disclaimer "Please note that this video is a concept trailer created solely for artistic and entertainment purposes. I have meticulously incorporated various effects, sound design, AI technologies, film analytics, and other elements to bring my vision to life."

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by tayo42 »

Zopieux wrote: post #29

Most people love making AI music by throwing a 5-word prompt at Suno and being in awe at "their" creation. However, it is also a fact that the vast majority of people can't care less to listen to their friends' and family's Sunos, as they were not involved in the process and therefore can't vibe to the random soul-less soup. Please keep your slop for yourself.

Most people wont listen to your music when you make it your self too

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by dwd »

brazukadev wrote: post #11
Narciss wrote: post #6

I love making AI music. Sometimes I freestyle rap over instrumentals that I’ve created with AI, record myself and then use that recording to create an AI song. Some of the songs I really love, like this one: https://suno.com/s/o4oyu5Eq7nMdQyzK There’d be more to say - but of course, creating songs without regard to their quality or your input in them is slop that shouldn’t be shared.

Lots of people love making them, almost nobody likes listen to them so you are the audience of the app you use to create it, not a creator.

As a tool, it could be useful as a starting point (a way to get your creativity going), but the sound is completely wrong.

Early Udio generated songs when run through a stem splitter were horrible to listen to and you could hear how it was just generating the frequencies with none of the texture—like a simulation of the frequencies an instrument would produce.

At the very least they should be re-recorded with real instruments and vocals or using the existing digital tools. Slop is one word; I like to use mush, as that is what it sounds like when you really listen closely.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by kalleboo »

yunwal wrote: post #32
CharlesW wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify pays ~70% of revenue to rights-holders, so unless you assume that Apple is paying a lot more, Apple Music is almost certainly profitable both as a standalone service and as a strategic bundle driver.

Apple pays about 3x as much per stream as Spotify according to most sources. https://musosoup.com/blog/does-apple-music-pay-artists-more-...

And this is because Spotify has a free, ad-based tier that pays way less than the paid premium listeners. Whereas Apple Music is all paying users (ignored the limited free trial)
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