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Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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Post by CaptainOfCoit »

gosub100 wrote: post #35
CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If history has thought us anything, it has to be that capitalists have absolutely no spine and only think about profits, no matter what.

It's the government that wants unchecked power, no matter what. This is why people support the 2A, and why it was the 2nd most important thing to those who founded the country.

> It's the government that wants unchecked power, no matter what.

"The Government" is not a entity with "wants" or "needs", it's a collection of people with their own motivations. Motivations that usually end up being about power or money, or a combination, because the people who end up in the government are capitalists.

> why it was the 2nd most important thing to those

I mean, not really? The 2nd amendment includes stuff that they didn't even think of originally when creating the constitution, so just because it was the second amendment that went through, doesn't mean it was "the 2nd most important thing", the most important things are the original articles in the constitution, so the amendments must start ranking at 8th place or something like that, 2nd amendment ends up being the 9th most important thing if we were to rank things like you did, but honestly.

Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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Post by westmeal »

mikkupikku wrote: post #30
Aachen wrote: post #14

These are mappable in OpenStreetMap with the tags surveillance:type=camera + camera:mount=doorbell Data query around the Netherlands shows about a hundred are mapped so far as specifically doorbell cameras: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/2dQw (the tag does not yet seem established in the USA). There are also many thousands of cameras mapped that are either not doorbell-mounted, or simply not tagged to such detail. This…

Seems like a fairly impractical thing to map unless you're getting volunteers to walk up to and inspect people's front doors. I know there is an app for a sort of gamified version of this where people take tasks to verify street signs or even how many stories a building has, I used that app for a while, but doorbell mapping seems a lot leas casual.

Walk up to door with stack of papers with a stock photo of a puppy on it that says lost puppy. Check if there's a camera. If the owner comes outside, ask them if they have seen this puppy.

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Post by shrubble »

When you take this info and combine it with the ability of Wifi7 routers to "see" where people are in their house, you realize that the recent demo of Anduril's helmet that gives an information display that the soldier/cop wearing it can use to "see who is in the house" or "see around corners" etc. is not sci-fi but instead, something they can do today.

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Post by locopati »

mothballed wrote: post #37
gosub100 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the government that wants unchecked power, no matter what. This is why people support the 2A, and why it was the 2nd most important thing to those who founded the country.

Most of the sanctuary areas that have historically resisted ICE are brutally against any originalist interpretation of the 2A.

And weirdly, the staunch defenders of 2A, because how else do you fight tyranny are all, good with the tyrant and the tyrant party shitting all over the Constitution.

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Post by [deleted] »

locopati wrote: post #44
mothballed wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the sanctuary areas that have historically resisted ICE are brutally against any originalist interpretation of the 2A.

And weirdly, the staunch defenders of 2A, because how else do you fight tyranny are all, good with the tyrant and the tyrant party shitting all over the Constitution.

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Post by RHSeeger »

themafia wrote: post #9
gitfan86 wrote: post #7

To all the people talking about government surveillance do you not realize the government already can track you by your cell phone?

I have deniability with the phone. I can also just leave it at home if I want or turn it off entirely. That access should also be illegal without a warrant; however, this is far worse than cellular "metadata" tracking.

> or turn it off entirely

That part you can't do. Unless the battery is removed, phone can be turned back on remotely.

Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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Post by thrance »

gosub100 wrote: post #35
CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If history has thought us anything, it has to be that capitalists have absolutely no spine and only think about profits, no matter what.

It's the government that wants unchecked power, no matter what. This is why people support the 2A, and why it was the 2nd most important thing to those who founded the country.

Your 2A line sounds like a big joke. What are the armed citizens supposed to do? Shoot ICE? That would end well, I'm sure. The guns are fucking useless when most gun owners support the authoritarian government currently taking roots.

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Post by sterwill »

olex wrote: post #38

And this is why my setup will be using Reolink cameras integrated locally via HomeAssistant and Frigate. Detection runs locally on cameras and/or in Frigate, HA manages events and UI, and the only way to access any of it remotely is via VPN, no "cloud" anything. If the authorities come knocking with a warrant, or frankly, even a nicely-worded sensible request, sure, have at it. But ain't nobody accessing the footage…

I bought Reolink PoE cameras because they support standard RTSP and I could put them on their own VLAN where they can't get to the Internet. I can still use the Reolink app to view them when I'm on the LAN, or through Wireguard when I'm not. I use ffmpeg to save streams to a big disk. Works great.

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Post by normie3000 »

olex wrote: post #38

And this is why my setup will be using Reolink cameras integrated locally via HomeAssistant and Frigate. Detection runs locally on cameras and/or in Frigate, HA manages events and UI, and the only way to access any of it remotely is via VPN, no "cloud" anything. If the authorities come knocking with a warrant, or frankly, even a nicely-worded sensible request, sure, have at it. But ain't nobody accessing the footage…

Don't Reolink cameras require the Reolink mobile app for setup?

Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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Post by QuantumNomad_ »

westmeal wrote: post #42
mikkupikku wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like a fairly impractical thing to map unless you're getting volunteers to walk up to and inspect people's front doors. I know there is an app for a sort of gamified version of this where people take tasks to verify street signs or even how many stories a building has, I used that app for a while, but doorbell mapping seems a lot leas casual.

Walk up to door with stack of papers with a stock photo of a puppy on it that says lost puppy. Check if there's a camera. If the owner comes outside, ask them if they have seen this puppy.

And then at door 125,000 you finally reach the home of the puppy that’s in the stock photo you printed. And they say “Why yes, we have seen this puppy. How did you know??”
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