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Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by api »

cubefox wrote: post #35
noveltyaccount wrote: post #13

It's still crazy to me that they put an M5 chip in this thing, but to run Mac apps you need a Mac. Just let the face computer be a computer!

Speaking of which, Apple could probably support Mac apps on modern iPhones if you plug it into an external monitor. I assume they aren't doing it because it would cannibalize their laptop market.

It would also be slow, not because the chip is slow but because if you do serious things with it it’s going to thermal throttle. Laptops have way better heat dissipation.

Most people put phones in cases which makes heat dissipation much worse.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by kibwen »

DennisP wrote: post #23

I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

Apple is not in the business of selling productivity software. Even their desktops/MacOS segment is an insignificant historical afterthought by now.

To a first approximation, Apple is a manufacturer of locked-down handheld entertainment appliances whose primary function is to psychologically condition children into siphoning off money from their inattentive parents. There's no reason to suspect their vision for the AVP to diverge significantly from this user story.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by simultsop »

alt227 wrote: post #34
mr_toad wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Would love to use VR for working on a plane. I immediately wonder how much of my carry-on allowance will be taken up by a VR headset. These things are still fairly clunky.

Meta has already released normal size smart glasses, it wont be long until all VR headsets are a relic of the past. EDIT: I think people are misunderstanding me. I dont mean VR/AR will be dead, I maen that all devices will be normal size glasses and big chunky headsets wont exist any more.

When you say: "it wont be long" you mean like another 50 years, right?

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by mrpippy »

DennisP wrote: post #23

I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

It can display an entire Mac desktop https://support.apple.com/en-us/118521

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by stetrain »

noveltyaccount wrote: post #13

It's still crazy to me that they put an M5 chip in this thing, but to run Mac apps you need a Mac. Just let the face computer be a computer!

Yeah, I think they could increase the utility of this product for the price point pretty easily by just adding a My Virtual Mac VM to it.

Obviously there would be performance constraints but at least for your $3499 you'd be getting a Mac instead of just a Mac Monitor.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by fkyoureadthedoc »

nomilk wrote: post #5

Anyone using one? If so, what for? (please give details) I got an oculus quest 2, was blown away by it for 1-2 hours, but never really picked it up again. The games were fun but very shallow, and never tried any practical uses. Would love to use VR for working on a plane. Currently use a laptop, but my neck sometimes gets sore from looking down. VR has the potential to 10x the screen real estate and prevent having to…

I had a quest 2, but it was always blurry for me. Something wrong with my eyes, idk. I've wanted to try a Bigscreen Beyond with custom lens inserts, but too much money to invest on something that might not work out.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by pipodeclown »

mr_toad wrote: post #29
noveltyaccount wrote: post #13

It's still crazy to me that they put an M5 chip in this thing, but to run Mac apps you need a Mac. Just let the face computer be a computer!

Mac apps will expect a full set of Mac hardware (not just the CPU), so you’d probably need to run a full virtual Mac for compatibility. Not impossible, but I expect it’s not a priority either.

Like what? A macbook is just a screen, connected keyboard and trackpad. This thing has the equivalent of all of that.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by simultsop »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #32
ulfw wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have given up on it. This is simply a chip replacement. It's likely cheaper than keep producing M2s just for this thing.

> They have given up on it > keep producing Maybe it's just me, but if they keep producing it (regardless of what chip), doesn't that mean they haven't given up on it?

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Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by bjacobel »

qwertytyyuu wrote: post #16

I expected them to give up on it. Props for not pulling a google, but I guess that isn't a high bar?

They massively over-estimated demand [1] and produced tens if not hundreds of thousands of units that didn't sell. This is them trying to liquidate their inventory of components.

[1]: https://daringfireball.net/2024/10/vision_pro_bites_dog

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