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3taps vs. Craigslist -- Who owns public data?

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Re: 3taps vs. Craigslist -- Who owns public data?

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Sigh, antitrust is a dead end. It might have been possible to argue prior restraint if Craigslist had stuck with their silly 'we own this' clause but they didn't. My guess is that any judge would say "Can anyone else make a classifieds site?" and "Does Craigslist interfere with anyone on their site using a different site?". Since the answer will be 'No' and 'No' thus they don't have a monopoly.

That seems overly simplistic. Anybody could have used a different browser/OS (there were several available in the 90s), yet MS was still found to be violating antitrust laws. The real question is whether Craigslist is using its market dominance in a way that hurts consumers. It's a far more nuanced question and one that will be fascinating to watch get answered. Craigslist did some awesome things for consumers once u…

Well if you recall Microsoft took an additional step, not only did they bundle their browser with windows, they put language in their contracts with OEMs that forbade them from putting other browsers into the system. Had Craigslist stuck with their idea that you couldn't put your listing anywhere else, then yes you could have argued they were using their position to restrict trade, but they stopped doing that fairly quickly (according to the article after talking with the EFF).

Re: 3taps vs. Craigslist -- Who owns public data?

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Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but this is how I see this whole ordeal.

Craigslist, a website that built up its user base and functionality by itself (lots of persistent hard work over the years) has listings.

3TAPS believes this information is public and should be freely accessible by anyone.

How does that make any sense at all? If I work for years to build a website, I will use and lease MY damn data however I please. A 3rd party has no right to claim that the website I have created that people use is "public property". I built the house. Now you're going to tell me it's a shelter?

Re: 3taps vs. Craigslist -- Who owns public data?

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Do you think most people listing ads on CL read the terms and understand them as you did? (Or were the terms confusing?) Are CL's terms different from what one would normally expect from a newspaper? That is, would you expect that the newspaper would require an exclusive license and prohibit you from running your ad anywhere else?

Yes, they are. Normally if someone wants an exclusive right to content they pay the producer for them. Virtually everyone else asks for a non-exclusive license. This is very different and has been discussed here on HN before.

And didn't CL change their terms (excl-->nonexcl) after some blogger posted about them? And didn't they make some changes to their site (collaborate with a maps provider so users can now get geo mappings) after filing this lawsuit? I've already forgotten now. This case just seems laughable to me. But what do I know.
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