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Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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Imagine such a amazing productivity tool, so amazing that you have to force your users into using it. As a person that was just born yesterday, I'm quite sure that the other technologies that are constantly compared to LLMs, like the internet and smartphones certainly must have endured the same adoption barriers, right?

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

#42

Claude is better. End of.

LLMs are on a very steep improvement curve, in general. Claude is good today. Something else from some group that figures out the next useful optimization will be better tomorrow. Repeat/rinse for at least 10 years..

A lot has been written about LLMs having reached a plateau with regards to improvements. They still all produce garbage way too often. LLMs have fundamental limitations that can't really be fixed. Garbage in / garbage out also applies, and that is only getting worse with LLMs being trained on ever growing volumes of "AI" slop that is permeating everything lately.

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

#43
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more nuanced than that. Microsoft is desperate for growth in a growth challenged macro, and Nadella has guided valuations and stock targets that are simply unobtainable without this growth. That's one part of the AI slop shovel. The second part is institutions that are desperate to cut labor costs or find other efficiency gains to maintain historical financial performance targets during ZIRP that are sim…

> Nadella has guided valuations and stock targets that are simply unobtainable without this growth I read a couple of articles and he seems to have been completely suckered in by the damn thing from https://archive.is/oWbZB#selection-2387.572-2401.668 > Copilot consumes Nadella’s life outside the office as well. He likes podcasts, but instead of listening to them, he loads transcripts into the Copilot app on his iPho…

Sounds like a dogfooding sales pitch to me. Nadella has learned from embarrassing prior incidents where Windows Phone developers were found to be using the iPhones or Androids as their personal devices, or when pictures of Microsoft employee offices showed Macs littering the workspace.

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

#44

I guess teams that are clever enough to avoid Copilot are also clever enough to write a script to call it on repeat in the background, while they are doing something more useful. Autonomous agents are all the rage anyway, isn't it?

Make copilot write it for you. Bonus points for asking it to be a self-replicating worm that runs on kernel level

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

#45

Claude is better. End of.

LLMs are on a very steep improvement curve, in general. Claude is good today. Something else from some group that figures out the next useful optimization will be better tomorrow. Repeat/rinse for at least 10 years..

That group will never be Microsoft, and if it is, that model won’t be the one they’re shoehorning into every enterprise product for free.

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

#46

Claude is better. End of.

LLMs are on a very steep improvement curve, in general. Claude is good today. Something else from some group that figures out the next useful optimization will be better tomorrow. Repeat/rinse for at least 10 years..

Yeah. Like fusion power

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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> It will also be possible to compare an organization's percentage of active Copilot users with other companies. The numbers are calculated using randomized mathematical models, according to Microsoft, so no one company's data is used, and it isn't possible to work out who is in the benchmark against which your own company's Copilot adoption is being measured. Somehow, I'm confident the result will almost always be t…

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Let's say you define top 10% of copilot using companies as excellent. By definition 90% of companies are below that benchmark and can use that to justify more AI investment. The subtle part of this is that it is dynamic. As companies use AI more top 10% is going to keep shifting up creating an AI race.

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It absolutely can be used within the EU. This is the marketing page targeted at companies in the Netherlands: https://www.microsoft.com/nl-nl/microsoft-viva/insights?mark...

those metrics are almost certainly a disproportionate invasion of employee privacy, not justified by any legitimate interest of the employer

It's a good time to be a lawyer.
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