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Re: Become unbannable from your email

#41
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that's the real hard part

Have you ever lost a domain? I haven’t despite having many domains across a number of registrars over the years. Are people just using bad registrars or what?

Yes, I have. Due to a human mistake we lost a family domain, where I hosted one of my important e-mails.

Re: Become unbannable from your email

#42
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post #8

There are online services where a bad actor can enter your email to automatically sign you up for hundreds, thousands of marketing emails. In the event that that happens, given that you have full control over the domain, you could just divert whatever @yourdomain.com to a black hole. What will happen when email attacks become more advanced--to the point of signing up thousands of different @yourdomain.com? What strat…

For every crucial service (banking, etc), generate a unique, cryptographically-strong email address, save it to your password manager, and have its mail forwarded to your common inbox. If only phone numbers were so easy to mask.

1) what does it mean for an email *address* to be cryptographically strong?

2) in case of hard to remember address, what do you do if asked to write it down with no access to your records? (It happened to me once before)

Re: Become unbannable from your email

#43
post #37

Been doing this for years, and surprised he didn't seem to mention the other benefit: "infinity" email addresses. Oh, rando burger spot wants an email for some free fries? Great, hit me up at randoburgerspot@"mydomain".com .

I like that as well, but it's exhausting having to explain every time that, no, I don't in fact work at randoburgerspot...

Re: Become unbannable from your email

#44
I've self hosted my email forwarding service on my own domain for over a decade, but eventually gave up because of deliverability issues that were out of my control - primarily with Microsoft's email services.

I've switched 3 years ago to a hosted forwarding service forwardemail.net

Pros:

* Allows to switch email providers if needed

* Allows to forward email to multiple providers

* Allows to store backups of emails

* Allows to have emails on multiple domains for different contexts (personal/professional/projects/etc.)

* Allows to have different email addresses per service. If you get spam on that email address you can just stop forwarding emails for it.

* Allows to have reliable mail rules based on the email address

* Allows also to send emails from multiple addressses

* Most spam is filtered before it reaches the inbox

* Open source

* Would be easy to switch to a different email forwarding service if needed (or self host it).

* Excellent track record over 8+ years

Cons:

* They have the potential to snoop on your emails. Any service that's really important would have 2FA enabled, so I accept the risk.

* They have the potential to send emails on your behalf - again, they've earned my trust, so I accept the risk for that.

* Add another point possible failure. So far I haven't noticed any issues with it.

* There's greylisting that delays emails for 5 minutes if they are not on the whitelist, which affects some of less common sending services.

* In very rare cases, some services ban registering with a forwarding email addresses.

* You need to make sure you don't lose your domain. I renew it 5 years before expiry with a reputable domain registrar (NameCheap).

Overall, it's been working great for me.

Re: Become unbannable from your email

#45
post #22

I've been doing this for years, though I don't really think of it as "having a backup" so much as "using an IMAP client". Works fine. It's really useful to be able to make up a new email address for every company who wants one; they each get their own folder. If I get any unexpected mail, it's obvious where it came from and easy to deal with, though in practice this rarely happens.

> I've been doing this for years Downloading email via POP or IMAP? Ever since I started using email in the 90's. I never deviated from it. In the old days, even the free mail hosts gave you POP access. My own domain? Doing it for over 20 years.

As of last week, Google is on-track to discontinue POP-polling functionality. I've been using this for about 20 years, not sure what to do. What a pain.

Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP (support.google.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45439670 - 6 days ago, 372 comments

Re: Become unbannable from your email

#46
post #25

You don’t have to have a single email address. I have plenty and various providers. Then use mail client instead of webmail. I use thunderbird and have multiple boxes I just backup Thunderbird profiles folder to my NAS.

Local mail clients are excellent for taking full control of your mail without contortions.

Re: Become unbannable from your email

#47
post #32

> With this solution, there's a high chance that if they ban you by mistake (AI bots are to blame), they will not disable the forwarding mechanism. Why bet on that instead of doing it the other way around (i.e. making the self-operated mail server the primary that forwards to the service provider inbox), or at least practicing doing so by pointing the MX records accordingly?

Afaik sending emails is much harder than receiving, because of several layers of anti-spam measurements, which don't apply for receiving (besides local spam filters).

Re: Become unbannable from your email

#48

TL;DR: Step 1: Get Your Own Domain Step 2: Make Backups This is not sufficient. Even your domain can be seized. There is no way for any service dependent on the DNS System to be irrevocably owned.

> There is no way for any service dependent on the DNS System to be irrevocably owned.

All you need to do is get an ISO-3166-1 alpha-2 code issued for you, and then never change your name, and you're golden.

Re: Become unbannable from your email

#49
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've been doing this for years Downloading email via POP or IMAP? Ever since I started using email in the 90's. I never deviated from it. In the old days, even the free mail hosts gave you POP access. My own domain? Doing it for over 20 years.

As of last week, Google is on-track to discontinue POP-polling functionality. I've been using this for about 20 years, not sure what to do. What a pain. Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP (support.google.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45439670 - 6 days ago, 372 comments

This is alarming if you just skim the headline (which I did, and was slightly alarmed), but it is about having gmail download from third-party accounts, not downloading emails from gmail. I don't think many people do this anyway, but I'm sure it was very convenient for some.

Re: Become unbannable from your email

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post #48

TL;DR: Step 1: Get Your Own Domain Step 2: Make Backups This is not sufficient. Even your domain can be seized. There is no way for any service dependent on the DNS System to be irrevocably owned.

> There is no way for any service dependent on the DNS System to be irrevocably owned. All you need to do is get an ISO-3166-1 alpha-2 code issued for you, and then never change your name, and you're golden.

Nope, again, not enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-level_domain#Historical_do...

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