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ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

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Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

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Post by throwaway984393 »

xyzelement wrote: post #39
deeg wrote: post #14

What happened to all those 2nd Amendment conservatives who needed their guns to protect us from the governments jack booted thugs?

This is such a lame comment, sorry. The fact 2nd amendment crowd had a chance to prove their principles a few weeks ago and they did it with flying colors when the NRA came out against any restrictions for trans people. But as a 2A supporter I don't feel any obligation to rage against ICE assembling a social media team. These seem to be completely disconnected concepts.

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Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

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Post by Hizonner »

bilbo0s wrote: post #25
btbuildem wrote: post #18

Given how many accounts online are bots or anonymous, will they ever be able to shake out which real people which personas belong to? Or will it be a case of "we said this is you, so that makes it you"?

There are already attribution technologies that are reliable and definitive. There's no real technical reason that they wouldn't have the capability to directly attribute accounts. Now.. is any of that gonna stop John or Joan Q Public who has a running disagreement with their asian or hispanic neighbor from calling in a "tip"? Probably not. Will that tip result in an automated digital proctology exam that may land th…

> There are already attribution technologies that are reliable and definitive.

Gonna stop you right there and ask you to back that up. It's not plausible. Especially not if people are actively trying to mess up the "attribution".

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

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Post by bilbo0s »

sixothree wrote: post #31
jinushaun wrote: post #6

It’s pretty clear that ICE is the seed of a paramilitary force.

And half of the country is cheering them on.

Liberals and conservatives don't split support in the country 50/50.

It's more like 20/20 and then that apathetic majority who can't be bothered to care enough to even vote is the rest. Given the nature of liberal and conservative policies, we can all probably see why many of them would be apathetic if we're being honest. But I'm sure those people aren't cheering. They're moreso saying, "See. I told ya so." To any friends and family who thought Trump would be any different. Probably gleefully pointing out to friends who are liberal or conservative that now things are worse.

For that "apathetic majority", they probably now feel vindicated in their decision not to vote and their sense of hopelessness.

And that's sad.

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

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Post by otterdude »

MandieD wrote: post #32

Yeah, that's some Gestapo level business... or since they don't like that word, Stasi. As in, there were loads of people in the DDR (East Germany, 1949-1989) whose job it was to read people's personal mail, along with the network of neighborhood snitches.

All those out of work programmers here's an opprotunity to create some disruption, pad your resume, and possibly create a job.

While we still have a free internet, it would be great to see efforts to create technology to replace centralized social media, cloud-tech, and businesses.

We need to make it so fucking hard for the gov, advertisers to get access to your data that it very expensive to maintain a system like this. And please please please do not work for or lend talent these jerks!

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

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Post by netsharc »

MandieD wrote: post #32

Yeah, that's some Gestapo level business... or since they don't like that word, Stasi. As in, there were loads of people in the DDR (East Germany, 1949-1989) whose job it was to read people's personal mail, along with the network of neighborhood snitches.

They really should just create "report your fellow users" snitching website.

Oh, I should make such a website and sell it to the Stasi, I'm going to be rich!

Easier would be to hint at Zuck that Trump wants that feature built-in on Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram, and the subservient billionaire will get right on it.

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

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Post by nicholasjarnold »

So if they are using information people freely share to social media sites as the seeds for their investigatory and enforcement actions it follows that there is a simple trick people can employ or minimize their effectiveness.

https://signal.org/download/

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

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Post by netsharc »

SteveNuts wrote: post #22
btbuildem wrote: post #18

Given how many accounts online are bots or anonymous, will they ever be able to shake out which real people which personas belong to? Or will it be a case of "we said this is you, so that makes it you"?

Yes, they’ll use bots to detect the bots. I guarantee it’s not hard to detect outliers (bots) via many different heuristics at this point. It’s going to turn into a perpetual game of whack a mole just like SEO and ad blocking.

I'm going to modify my keyboard to generate em-dash when I input "-"...
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