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Can it be used without a smartphone aka "portable telescreen"? Do they explicitly guarantee this'll remain the case? If not, you're just being hoodwinked via cheap convenience.
Everyone has a smartphone lol - i can tell that living in a country with great digital services is a lot less stressful than in country with no digitization and old school paperwork i have gone through both.
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Which means the provider can track you across all those. What you spend, what you read, what medical treatment you have. All just to save carrying a wallet?
The provider is the government by the way, and SSO doesn’t give them the ability to track activities beyond where I signed in. It is possible, to trust the government in other parts of world.
My digital ID in the western European country I live in is great, it also works offline. There's no extra information the government has that it didn't already have. Everything is the same, except now I don't have to carry a physical card with me all the time, I just need my phone and I can switch to a new phone easily.
Imagine the alternative: each government department has their own auth system to roll out and maintain, and you have a gazillion logins to manage etc.
I'm not sure the summoning of "capitalism" adds much here (and detracts a lot).
This is the classic surface level grasp where the author uses words like capitalism where they really mean corporatism -- I hope the author isn't against the free and mutually beneficial exchange of goods and services between two willing parties
Secondly just replace the word in this quote ^ with communism...or any large state apparatus for that matter, and it still could work.
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I'm not against digital ID, but I am very much against perfect law enforcement. Society evolves, and things that used to be unthinkable (eg gay marriage) slowly become acceptable. To become acceptable, however, they need to be allowed to be done, even if illegally. If you arrested every homosexual the moment they kissed someone, then homosexuality would never have become legal. Perfect enforcement leads to an ossifie…
This is the part of the argument I don’t get. A digital ID system like the one in NL is basically just a login system. It’s oauth for public services, not too different from “sign in with Google”. How does that lead to perfect law enforcement? Like, how does it prevent homosexuals from kissing? I don't mean this dismissively. I assume there is a series of steps that make sense that I’m not seeing.
The ID question splits into two halves:
1) ID requirements: situations where you cannot proceed without presenting ID
2) ID issuance: issuing an ID to comply with (1)
People here, and the thin liberal/libertarian side of UK politics, are quite against (2) because they think it will lead to (1). But it turns out to be very easy to impose (1)_in half-assed and inconvenient ways even without (2). We just got "identify yourself to use social media"! That's already happened, except the people you are identifying yourself to are random non-GDPR US data broker services which are almost certainly cc'ing US intelligence on a copy of all the faces you show them.
(2) is where the real fight is, and now we've mostly lost that (because the public wants authoritarianism so long as it's used primarily against The Other), not having (1) becomes a matter of dealing with an inconvenient and broken pseudo-ID system where "utility bill" is a valid form of ID and organizations may require things that no longer exist like "original printed bank statement".
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Can it be used without a smartphone aka "portable telescreen"? Do they explicitly guarantee this'll remain the case? If not, you're just being hoodwinked via cheap convenience.
Everyone has a smartphone lol - i can tell that living in a country with great digital services is a lot less stressful than in country with no digitization and old school paperwork i have gone through both.
> i can tell that living in a country with great digital services is a lot less stressful
For everyone who deserves to participate in society?
I dunno man, I migrated to the Netherlands and our digital ID is an amazing system that literally makes my life easier anytime i need to interact with something. An open standard for the world to use for this seems like the ideal way you would want it to happen. I also personally think we are going to need some form of digital id and hopefully some sort of attribute based credential implementation à la the DECODE pro…
Can it be used without a smartphone aka "portable telescreen"? Do they explicitly guarantee this'll remain the case? If not, you're just being hoodwinked via cheap convenience.
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This is the part of the argument I don’t get. A digital ID system like the one in NL is basically just a login system. It’s oauth for public services, not too different from “sign in with Google”. How does that lead to perfect law enforcement? Like, how does it prevent homosexuals from kissing? I don't mean this dismissively. I assume there is a series of steps that make sense that I’m not seeing.
Here in the UK, the government wants: * ID checks for social media (to protect children) * A digital ID card, allowing ID check records to be provably linked to the original ID document (to prevent illegal working) * The police arresting people for posting unfashionable takes on human sexuality to social media And even if you trust the current government, there are very real fears the next government will be Trump-ad…
When you look into these cases, they always turn out to be "a sustained campaign of harassment and abuse against one or more named individuals". It took years for even Glinner to finally cross that line and get his collar felt.