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The Lost Chapter

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Re: The Lost Chapter

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Post by wpietri »

Apocryphon wrote: post #17
mattmaroon wrote: post #6

"Perhaps the lesson here is that competing with and using your 'friends' in serial fashion until you totally and completely ravage each relationship is key to achieving financial success—but then it's certainly no way to define friendship." That's certainly not the lesson. In fact what's always made me believe these sort of attacks against Zuckerberg's character is the fact that you don't see this happen with really…

They've accused Steve Jobs and Bill Gates of it.

E.g., Jobs cheated Wozniak out of cash money:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs#Early_career

Re: The Lost Chapter

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Post by kanchax »

formeraapl wrote: post #13

It's damn hard to pull emotion out when writing about one's life story, but Greenspan's writing style so distracts from the meat of his story that it's frustrating. For instance: "both so-called Facebook veterans (a phrase that actual veterans might find laughable)" or "It was an expense I simply could not afford all over again (unlike the Winklevoss twins, my father did not have millions of dollars of disposable inc…

I agree, Greenspan did come out as a victim. His style is heavy.

Re: The Lost Chapter

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Post by lisper »

dbul wrote: post #35

So it happened that in my junior year of college, I came across the web site of one of the many finals clubs on campus, the Fly Club. It's "FINE-UHL clubs" not "FINE-UHLZ clubs." And he shockingly did not understand why information privacy might be a controversial issue. And then He had been searching the houseSYSTEM Facebook for the twins' profiles So much for privacy. Aside from the Facebook, the sites had overlapp…

> click here to learn more

There's a reason there is no such link. FaceCash is currently prohibited from doing business in California by the Money Transmission Act. Aaron is trying to resolve this, but until he does his hands are kind of tied.

Re: The Lost Chapter

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Post by gknoy »

rickdale wrote: post #39

Hm, anyone else have old AIM conversations stored on their computers? Seems convenient.

I do. My chat clients are set to automatically log, so that when I talk to someone a week later, I can look at the history. More importantly, a lot of questions get asked and answered over IM, so I can check it for answers to "why is X broken" or "How do I Y, again?", or "what was your mailing address?" without having to actually _ask_ the person again.

I've never looked back at archived IMs from years past, though, but they are still squirreled away on the removed hard drives from past machines.

Re: The Lost Chapter

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Post by jamesaguilar »

danielweber wrote: post #38
fletchowns wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How old was he when he made that comment? We all do/say dumb things when we are young...

It was about 5 years before he became a billionaire. If "he was young" is a defense, then "he is too young to trust as a CEO" suddenly becomes a very very valid criticism of Zuck.

> he is too young to trust as a CEO

Considering he has 57% of the voting power, isn't this criticism largely moot?

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Post by dkarl »

dbul wrote: post #35

So it happened that in my junior year of college, I came across the web site of one of the many finals clubs on campus, the Fly Club. It's "FINE-UHL clubs" not "FINE-UHLZ clubs." And he shockingly did not understand why information privacy might be a controversial issue. And then He had been searching the houseSYSTEM Facebook for the twins' profiles So much for privacy. Aside from the Facebook, the sites had overlapp…

It's a marketing failure to not capitalize on such an opportunity.

Geez, we're supposed to think less of the guy for not milking his controversial history with Zuckerburg for cash? If there's ever a right time to refrain from marketing yourself, it's when you're accusing someone else of being an opportunistic sociopath.

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Post by unabridged »

mattmaroon wrote: post #6

"Perhaps the lesson here is that competing with and using your 'friends' in serial fashion until you totally and completely ravage each relationship is key to achieving financial success—but then it's certainly no way to define friendship." That's certainly not the lesson. In fact what's always made me believe these sort of attacks against Zuckerberg's character is the fact that you don't see this happen with really…

>That's certainly not the lesson. In fact what's always made me believe these sort of attacks against Zuckerberg's character is the fact that you don't see this happen with really any of the other startups that got big. Nobody is accusing Larry and Sergey of these sorts of shenanigans.

I think a lot of it is about the product you are making. Google was started by people who would find Google useful. Larry and Sergey were not laughing at people for wanting to search the web. Facebook is just another in a long line of marketing triumphs, similar to movie and record producers who create movies and bands they themselves would never watch or listen to. Facebook is not a tech company, they are the worst part of the entertainment industry, the nonartists.

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Post by jonny_eh »

tharris0101 wrote: post #26

Here is what I don't get about this whole thing: Friendster - 2002 Myspace - 2003 LinkedIn - 2003 Not to mention the dozens of other social media clones around that time (I remember being members of countless social media sites in those days) Its not like anyone at Harvard stumbled upon an amazing new idea that was going to change the game. They were building what they hoped would be better versions of things already…

I assumed he got thefacebook.com because facebook.com wasn't available.

Re: The Lost Chapter

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Post by [deleted] »

ipince wrote: post #9
gojomo wrote: post #5

"Stuck in a moment." And once again, in Greenspan's own transcripts, Zuckerberg comes off better -- more focused, more observant, more strategic, seeing opportunities rather than obsessing on risks, and even more generous with offers of collaboration -- than Greenspan himself.

Maybe so. But still as an immature dick. Maybe I'm being too rosy and idealistic here, but I prefer integrity over those other traits you mentioned. Many people have a good balance, so why compromise?

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