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Re: Amazon Vega OS and Vega Developer Tools

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Post by alias_neo »

baggachipz wrote: post #29
alias_neo wrote: post #17

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I wonder if the Vega stuff will be much better. There's really nothing to like about the Fire TV sticks. I bought the 4K Max thinking it might be the best option for 4K streaming from all of the major providers as an upgrade for my aging Mi Box (3, I think); aside from the home screen being majority advert, the AV sync is constantly out and differs per-app, so changing it for one makes another worse, WiFi signal is p…

Apparently the only redeeming quality for FireTV Sticks is the ease of piracy. Easily flashed with Kodi or whatever with all the pirate streams pre-configured. I had a FireTV Stick once and never again, their OS is some franken-android monstrosity.

I had kind of hoped when I bought it, that I could put a better launcher on it without the almost-full-screen ads, which aren't always appropriate in a home with children, but they've blocked the ability to change the default launcher; there are ways to have one launch after a short delay, but that just annoys the missus and confuses the kids when it launches just after they've started scrolling around the stock launcher.

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Post by neom »

benbristow wrote: post #37
alias_neo wrote: post #33

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I've certainly heard of the dodgy usage of fire stick for streams but I've never been into football, what's this blackout all about?

The idea is that between around 3pm and 6pm every Saturday, outwith international breaks when international teams play (e.g. World Cup), no TV station in the UK is allowed to air live football. 3pm is the main kick off time. The idea is that this encourages people to go to their local football team instead of watching the game on TV. For a small island, there are massive amount of football teams. If you're American y…

Do people over there generally support this law? It's to my mind a super weird law, but to a degree... I dig it.

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Post by benbristow »

alias_neo wrote: post #39
benbristow wrote: post #37

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The idea is that between around 3pm and 6pm every Saturday, outwith international breaks when international teams play (e.g. World Cup), no TV station in the UK is allowed to air live football. 3pm is the main kick off time. The idea is that this encourages people to go to their local football team instead of watching the game on TV. For a small island, there are massive amount of football teams. If you're American y…

Thanks for the explanation. I'm British, but having never been into football (or any sport really) I wasn't aware of this TV blackout; given what I do know of people who don't necessarily support the local team, this sounds like madness, also how does this work for away games? I know loads of people who live/work in London now who still support their home town team. So, to make sure I understand this correctly; if I…

To answer your last question, yes. You would have to go watch your local lower non-league team if you wanted to watch football.

I suspect your London friends are using VPNs and/or illegal streams, or simply just following scores or watching watchalongs, Soccer Saturday etc.

Games outwith the Saturday blackout can be watched legally, bigger teams usually on TV or via club streaming services. Games are often scheduled at lunchtime and after 6pm to allow them to be aired on TV on Saturday.

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Post by benbristow »

neom wrote: post #42
benbristow wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea is that between around 3pm and 6pm every Saturday, outwith international breaks when international teams play (e.g. World Cup), no TV station in the UK is allowed to air live football. 3pm is the main kick off time. The idea is that this encourages people to go to their local football team instead of watching the game on TV. For a small island, there are massive amount of football teams. If you're American y…

Do people over there generally support this law? It's to my mind a super weird law, but to a degree... I dig it.

I think there is a general support but it is weaning with people skirting around the rules nonchalantly, and TV companies wanting to make more money. It is a running joke of people "going to France for the day" in fanbases (code for VPN usage).

Some 3pm games have started to air on trial.

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

close04 wrote: post #23
pwarner wrote: post #16

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What's better? I'm not in the Apple ecosystem. My key criteria would be UX and video quality. Thanks

I own multiple FireTVs, Google’s Android TV, and an Apple TV and for almost everything I do the AppleTV is far ahead. The only thing the FireTV had as an edge was the Xbox game streaming app which worked fine over WiFi6E. Otherwise it was absolutely ad-ridden, poor UI/UX, and Amazon’s apps suck on any platform. Since I no longer use the Xbox stuff, the stick and the older versions I have line the bottom of some drawe…

The delta in power between Apple TVs and most other streaming boxes/dongles is absurd. Even the now ancient 2017 Apple TV 4K has the muscle to brute force decode a lot of video that isn’t natively hardware accelerated, meanwhile there’s piles of brand new boxes/dongles that are hopelessly weak and don’t have a prayer of being able to handle the same files. The gap is more like a canyon if comparing against the current Apple TV model, and the upcoming refresh is probably going to make it basically a Mac Nano in terms of horsepower.

Yes they’re more pricey, but you’re getting a lot more hardware and better longevity for that money.

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Post by baggachipz »

lillecarl wrote: post #36
baggachipz wrote: post #34

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My Chromecast and Google TV [1] beg to differ. The latter was unceremoniously bricked after a couple of years. [1] https://www.cnet.com/reviews/logitech-revue-google-tv-review...

That's a Logitech device with Google software, Googles own devices have superb support. Logitech didn't pay Google for support I guess.

Google discontinued the software it ran on, Logitech had no choice.

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Post by lillecarl »

baggachipz wrote: post #46
lillecarl wrote: post #36

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That's a Logitech device with Google software, Googles own devices have superb support. Logitech didn't pay Google for support I guess.

Google discontinued the software it ran on, Logitech had no choice.

Well, no such thing has happened to NVIDIA Shield or Googles own devices, they're the only ones I'd consider. "Reputable brand" is too vague I agree.

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Post by oneplane »

pwarner wrote: post #16
JCM9 wrote: post #13

I find Amazon’s software for streaming much slower and buggier than other providers. The streams too also seem to have more issues.

What's better? I'm not in the Apple ecosystem. My key criteria would be UX and video quality. Thanks

You don't need to be in the Apple ecosystem to buy an Apple TV and only use non-Apple services.

The only thing that will probably suck is the lack of things like MiraCast and Google's Casting stuff, but you could use third party AirPlay software (still free IIRC) to stream whatever you want if you want to use screen mirroring.

These days people tend to use their media boxes as App Launchers for other services anyway, so it doesn't really matter that much anymore.

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Post by eysquared »

diggan wrote: post #7

I'm wondering if this is what they themselves use for developing the Prime Video app? At least on LG, it's by far the slowest, laggiest and most broken app our family sometimes use.

My information is largely out of date, but Vega is aimed squarely at Fire devices. I expect LG devices largely use the web based Prime Video app that runs on most living room devices.

LG TVs capabilities and performance from an app developer perspective is... not great.

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Post by ignoramous »

benbristow wrote: post #10
diggan wrote: post #7

I'm wondering if this is what they themselves use for developing the Prime Video app? At least on LG, it's by far the slowest, laggiest and most broken app our family sometimes use.

All Amazon apps are buggy and broken. The Amazon shopping app is awful, a bunch of put together web pages hanging on for dear life. Amazon optimise for sales and metrics over anything else.

> optimise for sales and metrics

I take you have some insider knowledge... if the app is hanging for dear life, how is that helping optimize the sales pipeline?

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