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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Frankly it’s borderline unethical that they offered 8gb models past like…M1. 12gb isn’t enough IMO for anyone who wants a machine that will last but at least it’s a step in the right direction. My friend with an M3 MacBook was complaining about the speed. I told them that was ridiculous and they must be doing something incredibly intensive. I came and took a look at it - I know chrome tabs are a memory hog but my God…

I am totally satisfied with the utility of my Apple Silicon Mac mini that is now 5 years old. Calling it "unethical" shows you have a weird point of view out of touch with mainstream use cases.

Reading on my 8gb M2 Air that I have not once ever felt is lacking.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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I own an M4 iPad Pro and can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower, given iPadOS's limitations. The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting, perhaps Apple will deign to make their ridiculously overpowered SOCs usable for general purpose computing. A man can dream..

> The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting What rumors have you seen? Anytime I've seen speculation, Apple execs seem to shut that idea down. Is there more evidence this is happening? If anything, Apple's recent moves to "macify" iPadOS indicate their strategy is to tempt people over into the locked down ecosystem, rather than bring the (more) open macOS to the iPad.

> Anytime I've seen speculation, Apple execs seem to shut that idea down.

They also said they weren’t merging iOS and macOS, and with every release that becomes more of a lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOYikXbC6Fs

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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> For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around. Only if you don't mind macOS.

I understand the point you're making, but FWIW I run Windows and Linux under Parallels and it works great. Colima/Lima is excellent, too: https://github.com/abiosoft/colima Windows on ARM performance is near native when run under macOS. `virtiofs` mounts aren't nearly as fast as native Linux filesystem access, but Colima/Lima can be very fast if you (for example) move build artifacts and dependency caches inside the…

There's also UTM, available free for download or you can make a donation to the devs by purchasing it from the App Store.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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I own an M4 iPad Pro and can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower, given iPadOS's limitations. The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting, perhaps Apple will deign to make their ridiculously overpowered SOCs usable for general purpose computing. A man can dream..

> The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting What rumors have you seen? Anytime I've seen speculation, Apple execs seem to shut that idea down. Is there more evidence this is happening? If anything, Apple's recent moves to "macify" iPadOS indicate their strategy is to tempt people over into the locked down ecosystem, rather than bring the (more) open macOS to the iPad.

Chances that there are both a folding iPhone and a Touchscreen Mac somewhere in the skunk works of Cupertino are 100%.

The Apple Vision Pro was a far more extreme product and was kept pretty well under wraps. (tho a market failure).

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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I bought an M4 iPad Pro and ended up returning it because I just don't like the magic keyboard. My current iPad is from 2018 and I use the Smart Keyboard Folio and (for me) it's just about perfect. Small, lightweight, not too expensive, easy to clean, and works great. I've been hoping there were enough people like me that a third party would make a replacement but that never happened. I know my current iPad Pro won't…

Still rocking a 2018 pro as well. At this point I would pay Apple for OS upgrades as I don’t see any reason to buy a new model.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Shame this fantastic, carefully engineered and unique technology is locked behind closed source drivers, non-upgradable hardware and tamper resistent boot processes. I love apple silicon... if only they would launch some sort of product or documentation allowing M-series processors to be practical for more general purpose computing...

I love being able to run local LLMs with decent performance on a laptop without external hardware, but it would be really nice if there was better gaming support.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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iPad M5 vs M4 [1], this is coming from leaked unbox video of M5 iPad Pro. So it should be legit. Single-Core Score 4133 3748 110.3% Multi-Core Score 15437 13324 115.9% Same maximum clock speed. So assuming no special thermals solution on the new iPad Pro such as vapour chamber. This is 10% pure IPC improvements although the M5 has 6MB L2 Cache. 2MB higher than M4. Not shown here are the E-Core performance. Which if w…

Frankly it’s borderline unethical that they offered 8gb models past like…M1. 12gb isn’t enough IMO for anyone who wants a machine that will last but at least it’s a step in the right direction. My friend with an M3 MacBook was complaining about the speed. I told them that was ridiculous and they must be doing something incredibly intensive. I came and took a look at it - I know chrome tabs are a memory hog but my God…

> I know chrome tabs are a memory hog but my God this thing slowed to a crawl with even lightweight usage despite being weeks old. I told him to return it immediately.

Wouldn’t it be easier to use Firefox or Safari? Chrome is a hog but it’s not like we don’t have multiple great alternatives which also use something like half of the battery and don’t oppose privacy measures.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Nice. The iPads generally measure around ~8% slower than the MacBooks, I guess for cooling reasons. So we should see approximately a 4400 single core Geekbench score for the MacBook series. This is nice. Single thread MacBook progression on Geekbench: M1: 2350 M2: 2600 M3: 3100 M4: 3850 M5: 4400 (estimated) https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks

Here’s the multi core Geekbench progression:

M1: 8350

M2: 9700

M3: 11650

M4: 14600

M5: 16650 (estimated)

This is assuming an 8% uplift as mentioned. Also nice.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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It feels like Intel and AMD are asleep at the wheel with their mobile lineup. I've been looking at non-apple equivalents that have similar performance/power as the M lineup and it seems they all lag about 20%+. For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around.

If you are OK with the closed apple ecosystem, sure, but I mean, 20% is not that much for 99% of the population. Don't get me wrong, I really admire what apple has done with the M CPUs, but I personally prefer the freedom of being able to install linux, bsd, windows, and even weirder OSes like Haiku.

Huge majority people don't really case about whether an ecosystem is closed or not. Power users, such as developers, actively chose Macbooks, and those users are most likely to care about that.

You really think an average person shopping for a computer at Bestbuy cares about installing a different OS on their machine?

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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It feels like Intel and AMD are asleep at the wheel with their mobile lineup. I've been looking at non-apple equivalents that have similar performance/power as the M lineup and it seems they all lag about 20%+. For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around.

Depends how you frame it; in my eyes, I'd be paying $1.4k USD after sales tax (at least here in the EU) for a laptop with measly 16 gigs of RAM… I could buy two normal laptops to outperform that for a price of one!
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