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Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording

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Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording

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Post by burkaman »

potato3732842 wrote: post #7

The fact that an out of touch billionaire might say such a thing doesn't bother me much, he's out of touch after all. The fact that we reliably and repeatedly see peasants (i.e. any less equal animal, so everyone here) who have no such excuse cheerleading for specific implementations in furtherance of their pet issues bothers me greatly. I'd say you ought to know better, but you do. When these subjects are discussed…

He's not out of touch. He's the first or second richest person on Earth, he has substantial influence over the president of the United States, and he's about to control one of the largest media empires in the country. You should be bothered by what he says because whatever dumb idea he has is going to become reality. He's one of the most powerful people on the planet.

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Post by vid »

chiffre01 wrote: post #14

Why is it that every single person born between 1940 and 1965 (or making more than $1 million per year) just wants to see all freedoms erased and every natural resource exhausted for their personal comfort?

This is deeply unfair. Plenty of people, including those responsible for more focus on environment and human rights, are in that age group. They are leaders and allies. Ageism is just another way divide society.

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Post by FridayoLeary »

I think this warrants an investigation as to at what point exactly did he completely disconnect from our reality. I think another parallel investigation should be begun as to how such a phenomenon could have been dismissed as science fiction when we have living evidence of it.

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Post by ceejayoz »

nostrademons wrote: post #36
chuckadams wrote: post #6

Ok Larry, where's the minute-by-minute footage of your private life?

TBF, this article kinda is it, as they're playing back comments he made a year ago (under a different administration) during an earning's call.

An earnings call is not private.

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Post by ragebol »

baggachipz wrote: post #13
potato3732842 wrote: post #7

The fact that an out of touch billionaire might say such a thing doesn't bother me much, he's out of touch after all. The fact that we reliably and repeatedly see peasants (i.e. any less equal animal, so everyone here) who have no such excuse cheerleading for specific implementations in furtherance of their pet issues bothers me greatly. I'd say you ought to know better, but you do. When these subjects are discussed…

But we're all going to be billionaires soon, right? Right? Edit: /s, in case it wasn't obvious

Even if we are, if there are trillionaires (on the long scale) or quadrillionaires, there will still be vast (problematic[1]) inequality.

[1] Problematic in the sense that the persons holding such vast wealth seem to go bonkers AND for the problems inequality leads to for society

Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

koolba wrote: post #39

I encourage people making snap comments to read at least one entire paragraph of the article: > “We’re going to have supervision,” Ellison said. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on.”…

> People do act differently when they know they are being watched

I really want to see more evidence for this. People act differently when they face consequences. More surveillance without enforcement wouldn’t be expected to positively change behaviour.

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Post by cjbgkagh »

c-linkage wrote: post #17
chiffre01 wrote: post #14

Why is it that every single person born between 1940 and 1965 (or making more than $1 million per year) just wants to see all freedoms erased and every natural resource exhausted for their personal comfort?

Because they already own those assets and don't want anyone else to have them. The perception of wealth is always relative so if I can't make any more to maintain my status I must ensure that others can't get what I have.

Not sure if the causality there is the right way around, I would suggest that because they have these beliefs they are allowed to amass that wealth. Oracle is a CIA spin-off (1977), they even kept the code name. The CIA works closely with Mossad. The 'abolish all billionaires' plan is encouraged precisely because it will be ineffective - they're assets of the state secret police and good luck abolishing that.

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

koolba wrote: post #39

I encourage people making snap comments to read at least one entire paragraph of the article: > “We’re going to have supervision,” Ellison said. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on.”…

Even if he was sincere about wanting to hold the police accountable, hand-waving away that AI will figure it out correctly has not been working out for so far.
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