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Why are they not hyper-focused on scaling the number of vehicles on the road now that they have a working system? Is Waymo afraid of flooding the supply and crashing prices? Are they too expensive to build/maintain to justify a lower price point?

What is going on, if you have PMF the logical next step is scale.

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I would be 90% sweat if I biked to work. Would need a shower and change

While I agree that it’s kinda unpleasant to get all sweaty before work, many larger corporations have offices (usually with gyms) have locker rooms and showers to support bikers. While I’m able to take transit, many of my coworkers do bike+shower at the office for commuting.

Is all that showering better or worse for the environment than using more appropriate transport in the first place?

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That doesn't seem right. Taking your own car, which you park at both ends of the trip, is clearly worse from a vehicle utilization and land use standpoint. A Waymo that takes a dozen trips a day and never parks on the street seems obviously superior.

I think the point is it's green washing. True sustainability is public transit, or biking or walking. This is just a line item got a company to blast as sustainability in marketing. This will let Waymo absorb some money from green washing slush funds.

> True sustainability is public transit, or biking or walking.

Surely it's whatever is most sustainable, which Waymo (or equivalent) very well could be.

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“Meet Sustainability Goals: Waymo’s fully electric fleet helps organizations advance their sustainability targets” Taking a private taxi to commute to work or school is easily the worst thing you can do environmentally in a city. Doesn’t really matter that you’re not burning dinosaur juice.

That doesn't seem right. Taking your own car, which you park at both ends of the trip, is clearly worse from a vehicle utilization and land use standpoint. A Waymo that takes a dozen trips a day and never parks on the street seems obviously superior.

The waymo carries no passengers when it's driving to pick up its next customer. So, its average occupancy (even worse than that of a car used exclusively by one person.

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't seem right. Taking your own car, which you park at both ends of the trip, is clearly worse from a vehicle utilization and land use standpoint. A Waymo that takes a dozen trips a day and never parks on the street seems obviously superior.

The waymo carries no passengers when it's driving to pick up its next customer. So, its average occupancy ( even worse than that of a car used exclusively by one person.

This is incorrect, because you have used the wrong denominator. The average occupancy of a private car is approximately zero. Most of the time, it just sits there empty.

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't seem right. Taking your own car, which you park at both ends of the trip, is clearly worse from a vehicle utilization and land use standpoint. A Waymo that takes a dozen trips a day and never parks on the street seems obviously superior.

I think the point is it's green washing. True sustainability is public transit, or biking or walking. This is just a line item got a company to blast as sustainability in marketing. This will let Waymo absorb some money from green washing slush funds.

It's better than the status quo, your standard for Scotsmen notwithstanding.

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#47

This is really exciting news! I think many tech companies would be interested in this service as it's a huge perk if you make your people commute into work. I mean how many people drive for 30 to 60 minutes just to get to work in or already a bit stressed out because of the drive. But second, wouldn't it be cool if places that serve alcohol could have a whole bunch of these codes to hand out! If somebody looks a bit…

> I mean how many people drive for 30 to 60 minutes just to get to work in or already a bit stressed out because of the drive. Will this still make sense if Weymo has to spend 30-60 minutes getting to wherever the worker needs to be picked up, presumably the suburbs?

Presumably that part of the drive would happen before rush hour, so it would be faster.

And yes, for certain cases it will be - employees who start their day less stressed produce more value. For people with paid mid-six-figures, this potentially lets the company wring more cognitive labor out of their them instead of them wasting it on driving (and maybe they'll even work from the car).

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I hope they'll support car pooling, and bigger vehicles for the same.

The next generation vehicle is much bigger https://waymo.com/blog/2024/08/meet-the-6th-generation-waymo...

That doesn't seem to say anything about the seating capacity?

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#49

Why are they not hyper-focused on scaling the number of vehicles on the road now that they have a working system? Is Waymo afraid of flooding the supply and crashing prices? Are they too expensive to build/maintain to justify a lower price point? What is going on, if you have PMF the logical next step is scale.

> Why are they not hyper-focused on scaling the number of vehicles on the road

I am no expert here, but my assumption scaling is not yet dependent on just having more cars, that they have to do extra work, that is not yet automatable, in each area they service plus some extra maintenance cost for every area they service.

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Especially when I'm guessing a lot of these "urban tech worker" commutes are mostly on surface streets or congested highways barely moving any faster. In my experience cycling to work I am actually faster on the bike than when I take the car. This is mostly due to filtering to the front of the intersection effectively eliminating any and all effects of rush hour traffic. Another huge factor is I can also park the bik…

I would be 90% sweat if I biked to work. Would need a shower and change

What I do is bike to and from the train station on the way in, saves me a 15 min walk on either end and no sweat at all biking at easy pace for a few mins especially when its so cool in the morning. On the way back I will bike the whole way for the fitness benefit and shower when I get home as usual after work. Once you are in shape though, which happens surprisingly quickly with regular riding, you won't really sweat from ~30 mins easy pace rides.

If you don't have a train or bus along the way, ebikes can also save you sweat. You don't even need to pedal at all.

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