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Learning Persian with Anki, ChatGPT and YouTube

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Re: Learning Persian with Anki, ChatGPT and YouTube

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Trying to learn a language by anything other than going through the process of constructing grammatical sentences in the language is my favorite genre of hackernews posts

This is a fine way to bring the material into your "cache" but you aren't doing the work required to learn a language: Communication!

Re: Learning Persian with Anki, ChatGPT and YouTube

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The most effective routine is the one you stick with for sure! I love anki and use it for Spanish which is showing marked improvement. I do vocab and conjugation with Anki. Then I just find other ways to immerse myself and call it a day. - Spanish audio for sports whenever possible - Interfaces for personal computers/devices - Picking up the Spanish language weekly from the little box on the corner - Listening to Spa…

im in the exact same boat. Do you have any recs for news sites? I use el pais, but that has a lot of locked articles.

I'm at the... "the less news I consume the better" phase of my year lol so I haven't found much I visit regularly but Telemundo and AP News en Español were two good ones.

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Did you get through the entire KOFI deck for Spanish? I started the French one, but didn't make it past a month or two before I fell off. I'm thinking of going through the French -> Spanish Assimil course soon and might give the KOFI deck another go, this time in Spanish.

I very much did, and sticking with it was the best choice I made. You will get very very fast at it after a while, and the first verbs are the hardest and most irregular (and you should spend the most time on them.) Throwing in the messy clozes after doing your conjugations is relaxing, and you can do as many of those as you're in the mood for, whereas the conjugations are systematically introduced and you shouldn't…

Just seconding all of this and how useful (and annoying) the conjugation deck has been for me in Spanish. Not sure if it was the KOFI one, but it runs through from irregular through to the mostly regular. And yea, total pain in the ass, and some still get me lol and I don't regret it in the slightest cause everything else is a ton easier to pick up and everything becomes much more accessible.

Re: Learning Persian with Anki, ChatGPT and YouTube

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Did you get through the entire KOFI deck for Spanish? I started the French one, but didn't make it past a month or two before I fell off. I'm thinking of going through the French -> Spanish Assimil course soon and might give the KOFI deck another go, this time in Spanish.

I very much did, and sticking with it was the best choice I made. You will get very very fast at it after a while, and the first verbs are the hardest and most irregular (and you should spend the most time on them.) Throwing in the messy clozes after doing your conjugations is relaxing, and you can do as many of those as you're in the mood for, whereas the conjugations are systematically introduced and you shouldn't…

Thanks for the thoughtful response and links! I actually think you've convinced me to go back and try to complete the whole French KOFI deck, as there are certainly gaps in my verb conjugations.

For hearing French, I went through the old FSI French phonology course at the beginning, as well as all the grouped (A1/A2/etc) comprehensible input from this channel: https://www.youtube.com/@FrenchComprehensibleInput/playlists. Oh, and I did a bunch of the French listening comprehension on Yabla for a few months: https://french.yabla.com/.

Re: Learning Persian with Anki, ChatGPT and YouTube

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I very much did, and sticking with it was the best choice I made. You will get very very fast at it after a while, and the first verbs are the hardest and most irregular (and you should spend the most time on them.) Throwing in the messy clozes after doing your conjugations is relaxing, and you can do as many of those as you're in the mood for, whereas the conjugations are systematically introduced and you shouldn't…

Thanks for the thoughtful response and links! I actually think you've convinced me to go back and try to complete the whole French KOFI deck, as there are certainly gaps in my verb conjugations. For hearing French, I went through the old FSI French phonology course at the beginning, as well as all the grouped (A1/A2/etc) comprehensible input from this channel: https://www.youtube.com/@FrenchComprehensibleInput/playli…

> FSI French phonology course

I did the same. Got me interested in the old programmatic methods and how they could be adapted to LLMs.

Also, pssst... https://seulementbd.blogspot.com/

Re: Learning Persian with Anki, ChatGPT and YouTube

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I haven't incorporated Anki yet, but I guess a similar idea would be Memrise. My experience with that for Korean was that it was too intense in the beginning, since it was throwing random (though basic) phrases of like 9 syllables at me, and I couldn't keep them straight. I am considering trying Memrise again, since I've gone through A2 level on Busuu since then, and know more basic phrases and grammar. I do think I should be building my own Anki set by this point, but I've been too lazy.

Helping with language learning is one of the things I think ChatGPT is excellent for. I have a long-term conversation only about Korean, and I can ask questions like "how would a Korean understand [some grammatical structure]?" and it gives very insightful answers, and even refers back to vocabulary that I've already used or other discussions about similar topics.

Re: Learning Persian with Anki, ChatGPT and YouTube

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Always fun to see two of my worlds collide! I studied Dari own my own and at college as an elective, and ended up taking a job with the ICRC to investigate ISAF war crimes in Afghanistan right after I graduated These days Dari is my most comfortable second language (and I have quite a few of them) I'm not sure if, given I had to start from scratch again, I'd go down this route - the description and screenshots seem v…

I speak Farsi and I am really curious about some of these blunders if you could share

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There's a large number of prebuilt Anki decks available here as well if this is useful for anyone exploring the space - https://ankiweb.net/shared/decks?search

For sure! I've gone through some pre-made verb conjugation and vocab decks -- and actually have been meaning to upload one I made for learning Bengali script -- but I still find grinding Anki decks to not be that effective for me. Which sucks, because all you hear is how magic Anki is, but I guess I've always struggled with rote memorization.

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Re: Learning Persian with Anki, ChatGPT and YouTube

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Always fun to see two of my worlds collide! I studied Dari own my own and at college as an elective, and ended up taking a job with the ICRC to investigate ISAF war crimes in Afghanistan right after I graduated These days Dari is my most comfortable second language (and I have quite a few of them) I'm not sure if, given I had to start from scratch again, I'd go down this route - the description and screenshots seem v…

I speak Farsi and I am really curious about some of these blunders if you could share

Using the word pistan instead of sina when talking about "chicken breast" (the cut of meat)
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