Is there anything in the proposal to stop people from VPN'ing to a free country and access their porn from there?
I think they want to make age verification mandatory for subscribing to VPN services too.
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#42So in order to be a part of European society I need to accept the terms and conditions of US companies?
What happens if something goes wrong and you have to rely on contacting a human in Google of all places? Sorry, you have a copyright strike on your YouTube account, now you can't file taxes! Hopefully you have enough followers on Twitter than you can get them to pay attention.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Suuure, if the USSR had been a deeply neoliberal market economy. Something tells me you don't know anything about either the EU or the USSR.
Well, obviously there are differences, but some overreaching and, I believe, unrealistic policies, such as the EU's climate policies, are somewhat reminiscent of the Soviet Union's central planning.
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#45This is hardware attestation in a nutshell: a double edged sword, and a sharp one at that. The biggest issue is that the attestation hardware and the application client is the same device with the same manufacturer, who also happens to have a slight conflict of interest between monetizing customers and preserving any sort of privacy. IMHO the pro-attestation forces are so overwhelming that we should all cherish the m…
The insane question here is, why would the EU mandate hardware attestation controlled by two private American companies in order to access services?
That seems completely contrary to the spirit of EU laws and regulations, which tend to be about protecting the consumer, preventing monopolies, ensuring people can generally live their lives where all things that are mandatory are owned and ran by the state and foster a certain degree of EU independence, with a recent focus on "digital sovereignty".
This one is a five for one against all of those goals? Harms the customer (you could see this as the polar opposite of GDPR), strengthens entrenched monopolies, force citizens to be serfs of one of two private corporations in order to access information, and on top of that, like it wasn't enough, willingly capitulates to the US as the arbitrates of who is a valid person or not.
This is so against the spirit of the EU itself that it would almost be funny if people weren't serious.
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#46Is there anything in the proposal to stop people from VPN'ing to a free country and access their porn from there?
You can’t fence in the wind
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
This read more like "we thought pc was a dead relic of the past" sadly
I think it's more that smartphones have built in security measures that prevent hacking. It already works for bank apps, so why not use it for government stuff too? It sucks, yes, but that's probably how these people think.
but if age verification is used for what it claims it is such hacking protections are not only unnecessary but fundamentally harmful (i.e. if a child hacks their PC it's fine if they circumvent age verification, the main responsibility still lies with parents and as such tools like parent controls are much more relevant)
the main reason is that this is not a reference implementations or "this is the app everyone must use" case but a "to see what is technical possible/practical" "research/POV" project
this also makes the "EU age verification app" title quite misleading
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Suuure, if the USSR had been a deeply neoliberal market economy. Something tells me you don't know anything about either the EU or the USSR.
While I agree EU is nothing like USSR, calling it a market economy is kind of questionable. It’s a bit of a hybrid, which companies allowed to market and sell on their own but with intense regulatory control over product design. From USBC to ad supported business models, the EU has fairly tight control over how products are designed and monetized, in a way that I don’t think can be described as a pure market economy.…
since when a market economy need to have no regulation?
Market economies are contrasted with planned economies, i.e. how prices are determined and production allocated, and the EU most decidedly is not that.
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#50what if i were to buy a linux phone? it's not even about desktop support, it's about supporting iOS or android and nothing else which is really bad
Most of what the EU does these days is (knowingly or not) freezing the current status quo regarding the tech world. It’s depressing.
And Europeans are either too passive, too ignorant or too focused on the wrong issues.