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Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden?

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Re: Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden?

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The funny thing is that an oxygen-rich environment is a hell-hole! Oxygen is insanely reactive and will corrode anything. Even early life on earth found oxygen toxic. It was released as a waste product by early life and they were so successful that all that oxygen accumulated resulting in the Great Oxidation Event (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxidation_Event).

That likely resulted in many species going extinct!

Re: Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden?

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One odd theory i heard is that Earth is actually one giant superorganism. (When you look at how well all the ecosystems internact with each other it kind of makes sense). Like any organism, when invaded by a virus it heats up in a fever in order to kill it...

Re: Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden?

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Don't forget the corrusive atmosphere that is acid and eats up space probes.

Depends on elevation. It’s quite habitable with enough height.

Nitrogen oxygen at one atmosphere is a lifting gas on Venus. You could live in an enormous zorb if you can keep it sealed.

Re: Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden?

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Agree. But my understanding is the main idea is Mars is supposed to be a "backup" for humanity in the event of a very-low-probability catastrophic event on earth (total nuclear war, solar flare, meteorite collision). In our lifetimes, unlikely. Over the next 1 million years? Maybe.

Thinking about wild scenarios is fun and sometimes even prudent. But acting on it at this point is tragic premature optimization. Musk isn't a stupid person so I have to think in his heart he knows his story is more about PR and being seen as a visionary as something that will actually be done in the next thousand or ten thousand years. Even if there is some climate catastrophe that causes 99% of the population to di…

That’s an incredibly good analogy.

Re: Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden?

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Tectonics isn’t the issue There would be little point in terraforming Mars. There’s plenty of places on Earth to terraform

The whole point of Mars (or any other second planet) is redundancy. If something happens to earth we have a backup plan, as a species.

>The whole point of Mars (or any other second planet) is redundancy.

No. It's some combination of cowardice, greed and ego, by those involved.

You can bet your ass those guys are not thinking about saving the species. Lol. Furthest thing from their minds.

Solve the Earth's problems on Earth instead, no need to run off to Mars.

That's just kicking the can down the road.

Re: Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden?

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Without tectonics, is terraforming Mars even possible as a long term solution? This "Mars colonization" strategy seems like a pipe dream, no?

Tectonics isn’t the issue There would be little point in terraforming Mars. There’s plenty of places on Earth to terraform

If we fuck up terraforming Mars, it's bad, but not ecological collapse level bad. On the other hand, we're already fucking up terraforming Earth.

Re: Why is Venus hell and Earth an Eden?

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One odd theory i heard is that Earth is actually one giant superorganism. (When you look at how well all the ecosystems internact with each other it kind of makes sense). Like any organism, when invaded by a virus it heats up in a fever in order to kill it...

Doing things in a chaotic way will increase entropy. Increased entropy is heat.
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