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Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

#41
According to Wikipedia, JavaScript first appeared on December 4th, 1995, as a part of Netscape Navigator. The name was LiveScript in beta versions.

Sun Microsystems (acquired by Oracle) made the application for the trademark[1] on December 1st, 1995. The trademark was issued on May 6th, 1997.

[1]https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75026640&caseType=SERIAL_...

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

#42
I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS)

So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would go to fund their product.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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I can't be the only one who believes the name JavaScript should die in Peace. It was and still is the worst naming of any popular programming language in existence.

All in favor of WebScript raise your hands! :-P

...I am 1000x more in favor of *.ws instead of "Michael Jackson" of *.mjs

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

#46

I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS) So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would…

They don't have the right to do this. Oracle safeguards the JavaScript trademark against abuse with it's powerful legal teams and has a track record of good stewardship. These guys want to hijack their property and let it loose to the wild west. Who knows what unethical actors will do with it..

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

#47

I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS) So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would…

Imagine the kind of media attention / clout they'll get for "beating Oracle" etc.

They absolutely do get material gains from this, should they succeed.

It'd be a much more legitimate effort if they were just asking people to raise funds for e.g. OpenJS to file suit etc.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

#48

no thanks, ecmascript already is a fine name why don't we just start using it more since thats what it is why deno so hung up on this? why not focus getting people to use deno instead?

"ecma" doesn't feel right coming out of my mouth or in my ears. Perhaps because it's sound isn't common in the English language? I'm actually struggling to find any other words right now that sounds similar to ecma.

But to answer your question, here we all are talking about Deno. Can't say if that was their plan all along or not, but it's working.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

#49

I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS) So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would…

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