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Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

#41
post #6

Protect yourself, use a local account. Windows 11 does not allow this but Rufus will help when you create your Windows installation media. And obviously never enter your Microsoft account credentials into any Microsoft app until you're certain it won't be linked to your local account.

This is digital Stockholm syndrome. The only actual way to protect yourself from windows is never installing it in the first place and switch to a FOSS OS.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

#42
post #6

Protect yourself, use a local account. Windows 11 does not allow this but Rufus will help when you create your Windows installation media. And obviously never enter your Microsoft account credentials into any Microsoft app until you're certain it won't be linked to your local account.

I have a machine with Windows 11 Enterprise LTSB and it did not ask me to login in with microsoft credentials after/during install. No Microsoft Store or other bloat, no One Drive necromancy.

I'd like to use it but no way to buy it as a non-professional customer. Regular people have no choice if they need Windows-exclusive software or hardware.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

#43
I abandoned Windows over 10 years ago, when a mandatory Windows 10 update rewrote by UEFI partition and messed up my dual boot setup. It took me an entire evening to fix, at which point I swore that no machine owned by me would ever run Windows again.

The more I hear about Windows 11 makes me think I really dodged a bullet there.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

#44
post #27

FYI: You can still install Win11 with a local account. When prompted for your account, hit Shift+F10 to get a terminal, then enter start ms-cxh:localonly and a window will pop up where you can create a local account and continue with the installation. Yep, it's all insane. And before the "switch to Linux" replies: yes, I am using Linux, but Friends&Family still rely on Windows software. The big elephant in the room i…

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Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

#46
post #27

FYI: You can still install Win11 with a local account. When prompted for your account, hit Shift+F10 to get a terminal, then enter start ms-cxh:localonly and a window will pop up where you can create a local account and continue with the installation. Yep, it's all insane. And before the "switch to Linux" replies: yes, I am using Linux, but Friends&Family still rely on Windows software. The big elephant in the room i…

why will libreoffice not do? just the difference of the UI, or incompatibility worries?

in my opinion these are just transition issues. iaw. it's not a problem with libreoffice but the problem is that there is a transition.

same with a windows VM. just the issues with interaction with documents outside the VM, or that using a VM is not really solving the problem of getting rid of windows?

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

#47
post #46
post #27

FYI: You can still install Win11 with a local account. When prompted for your account, hit Shift+F10 to get a terminal, then enter start ms-cxh:localonly and a window will pop up where you can create a local account and continue with the installation. Yep, it's all insane. And before the "switch to Linux" replies: yes, I am using Linux, but Friends&Family still rely on Windows software. The big elephant in the room i…

why will libreoffice not do? just the difference of the UI, or incompatibility worries? in my opinion these are just transition issues. iaw. it's not a problem with libreoffice but the problem is that there is a transition. same with a windows VM. just the issues with interaction with documents outside the VM, or that using a VM is not really solving the problem of getting rid of windows?

Interoperability is still an issue, and people who are already suspicious of you messing with their shit really do not want a “different office” at home than at work.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

#48

If you buy a Samsung phone, after initial setup (be sure to Opt-out of all the extra ToS), install all the google equivalent app (calc, calendar, contacts, phone, etc) enable developer mode and remove all the samsung variants via adb. Takes an hour but well worth it. Some packages/apps can only be removed via adb. On a brand new samsung, there are three Meta/facebook packages installed in android as hidden even if yo…

This is what it means to let someone else own the platform for your computing needs.

Stallman was right, and nobody ever listens until it's too late.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

#49
post #46
post #27

FYI: You can still install Win11 with a local account. When prompted for your account, hit Shift+F10 to get a terminal, then enter start ms-cxh:localonly and a window will pop up where you can create a local account and continue with the installation. Yep, it's all insane. And before the "switch to Linux" replies: yes, I am using Linux, but Friends&Family still rely on Windows software. The big elephant in the room i…

why will libreoffice not do? just the difference of the UI, or incompatibility worries? in my opinion these are just transition issues. iaw. it's not a problem with libreoffice but the problem is that there is a transition. same with a windows VM. just the issues with interaction with documents outside the VM, or that using a VM is not really solving the problem of getting rid of windows?

By far the biggest problem is interoperability with people using MS Office. I'm fully aware that Microsoft is essentially sabotaging this by making their format deliberately obtuse, but here we are.

The VM thing is tedious to set up, requires more resources and, as you say, does not really solve the problem. Also, there's the problem of Windows activation in VMs, which - at least officially - requires an expensive retail key.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

#50

I abandoned Windows over 10 years ago, when a mandatory Windows 10 update rewrote by UEFI partition and messed up my dual boot setup. It took me an entire evening to fix, at which point I swore that no machine owned by me would ever run Windows again. The more I hear about Windows 11 makes me think I really dodged a bullet there.

Windows has been doing this since forever.
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