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Re: Notion API importer, with Databases to Bases conversion bounty

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Post by chatmasta »

lihaoyi wrote: post #20

I've had a pretty good experience offering bounties on my own projects: - https://github.com/orgs/com-lihaoyi/discussions/6 If you look at that thread, you'll see I've paid out quite a lot in bounties, somewhere around 50-60kUSD (the amount is not quite precise, because some bounties I completed myself without paying, and others I paid extra when the work turned out to be more than expected). In exchange, I did manag…

I only briefly glanced at your project, but it doesn’t look like a commercial offering or a component of one… what is your motivation for paying people to do this work? I would think bounties would be used more often by companies who need some open source feature for interoperability or integration purposes…

Re: Notion API importer, with Databases to Bases conversion bounty

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Post by sindriava »

zwnow wrote: post #37
theshrike79 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you get paid more than $5k a week, this isn't for you clearly.

If you think this is what I wrote, you should go to reading comprehension courses.

While I understand you wrote "free time", this isn't Reddit. Keep the snarkiness to a minimum.

Re: Notion API importer, with Databases to Bases conversion bounty

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Post by dfee »

My obsidian is slow to start on my phone (~30s, latest iPhone) and even on my computer it’s ~10s. I probably have 1000 notes, no back links, and I’m using the Vim extension and the default theme. It uses iCloud backup.

I can’t figure out why it’s so damn slow. But also, how is it any better than Notion at that point?

Re: Notion API importer, with Databases to Bases conversion bounty

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Post by scrollaway »

jangxx wrote: post #38
NewsaHackO wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the original poster said: >Even if AI contributed just a tiny bit. Which would imply autocorrect should be reported as AI use.

A law like this would obviously need some sort of sensible definition of what "AI" means in this context. Online translation tools also use ML models and even systems to unlock your device with your face do, so classifying all of that as "AI contributions" would make the definition completely useless. I assume the OP was talking about things like LLMs and diffusion models which one could definitely single out for reg…

OK, so define it for us, please. Because, once again, this thread is talking about introducing laws about "AI". OP was talking about LLMs you say - So SLMs then are fine? If not, then where is the boundary? If they're fine then congratulations you have created a new industry of people pushing the boundaries of what SLMs can do, as well as how they are defined.

Laws are built on definitions and this hand-wavy BS is how we got nonsense like the current version of the AI act.

Re: Notion API importer, with Databases to Bases conversion bounty

#45

Post by jangxx »

scrollaway wrote: post #44
jangxx wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A law like this would obviously need some sort of sensible definition of what "AI" means in this context. Online translation tools also use ML models and even systems to unlock your device with your face do, so classifying all of that as "AI contributions" would make the definition completely useless. I assume the OP was talking about things like LLMs and diffusion models which one could definitely single out for reg…

OK, so define it for us, please. Because, once again, this thread is talking about introducing laws about "AI". OP was talking about LLMs you say - So SLMs then are fine? If not, then where is the boundary? If they're fine then congratulations you have created a new industry of people pushing the boundaries of what SLMs can do, as well as how they are defined. Laws are built on definitions and this hand-wavy BS is ho…

Why are you so mad at me, I'm not even the OP you should ask these questions. I'm also not convinced we need regulation like this in the first place, so I can't tell you where this boundary should be, but a boundary could certainly be found and it would be beyond simple spellchecking autocorrect.

I also don't understand why you think this would be so impossible to define. There are regulations for all kinds of areas where specific things are targeted like chemicals or drugs and just because some of these have incentivized people to slightly change a regulated thing into an unregulated thing does not mean we don't regulate these areas at all. So how are AI systems so different that you think it'd be impossible to find an adequate definition?

Re: Notion API importer, with Databases to Bases conversion bounty

#46

Post by threetonesun »

dfee wrote: post #43

My obsidian is slow to start on my phone (~30s, latest iPhone) and even on my computer it’s ~10s. I probably have 1000 notes, no back links, and I’m using the Vim extension and the default theme. It uses iCloud backup. I can’t figure out why it’s so damn slow. But also, how is it any better than Notion at that point?

The mobile app had a notice about iCloud for a long time (I forget if it's gone now or not), but usually you're running into Obsidian trying to sync all of the files and rebuild it's internal cache when it opens instead of being able to do any background sync.

As for why is it better than Notion at that point, well, if you wanted to you could use a "faster" app like iA Writer on your phone, or anything that can open Markdown. That remains its biggest benefit, you're never locked in to files that are only on someone else's server.

Re: Notion API importer, with Databases to Bases conversion bounty

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Post by kepano »

dfee wrote: post #43

My obsidian is slow to start on my phone (~30s, latest iPhone) and even on my computer it’s ~10s. I probably have 1000 notes, no back links, and I’m using the Vim extension and the default theme. It uses iCloud backup. I can’t figure out why it’s so damn slow. But also, how is it any better than Notion at that point?

It sounds like iCloud's automatic offloading "feature" which deletes your local files and re-downloads them as needed. Go to the iCloud folder for Obsidian and set it to "Keep downloaded".

Re: Notion API importer, with Databases to Bases conversion bounty

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Post by count »

chatmasta wrote: post #41
lihaoyi wrote: post #20

I've had a pretty good experience offering bounties on my own projects: - https://github.com/orgs/com-lihaoyi/discussions/6 If you look at that thread, you'll see I've paid out quite a lot in bounties, somewhere around 50-60kUSD (the amount is not quite precise, because some bounties I completed myself without paying, and others I paid extra when the work turned out to be more than expected). In exchange, I did manag…

I only briefly glanced at your project, but it doesn’t look like a commercial offering or a component of one… what is your motivation for paying people to do this work? I would think bounties would be used more often by companies who need some open source feature for interoperability or integration purposes…

Having more money than free time but still wanting a thing to get done. Lots of folks pay good money for hobbies (video games, golf fees, bicycle purchases, etc.).

Re: Notion API importer, with Databases to Bases conversion bounty

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Post by sndixnnx »

Banditoz wrote: post #10
jumploops wrote: post #6

Everyone is looking down on LLM-assisted dev here, but I think it's a great fit. I also don't believe it can be one-shotted (there's too many deltas between Notion's API and Obsidian). With that said, LLMs are great for enumerating edge-cases, and this feels like the perfect task for Codex/Claude Code. I'd implore the obsidian team/maintainers to take a stab at building this with LLMs. Based on personal experience, t…

Someone's given it a shot: https://github.com/obsidianmd/obsidian-importer/pull/424

It’s funny reading these threads. A gif of a few clicks is evidence “it works” for the author. It’s like citing lines of code as a measure of your productivity. Appears impressive on first glance, but any expert will call you out as a snake oil salesman.

My guess is this is close to the level of testing they put forth for ensuring the AI generated code works (based off my experience with other AI heavy devs). They didn’t take any time to thoroughly review nor understand the code. A large file doesn’t necessarily mean shoddy work, but it certainly indicates it’s likely that.

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