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Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated

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Be very glad that's all they are doing.

What is that supposed to mean? That's no further away from "violent rhetoric" as the things many critics of Kirk have said recently, and been vilified for saying

It means the event has had such an impact in which it has already reverberated across the entire globe, where other countries' leaders and people have responded.

He's saying to not be surprised when this may potentially affect the already volatile state of the global markets and economies even further or, whatever industries you follow or are in or, policy changes that may (already) be in the pipeline.

If I may give a metaphor, in the context of the global trade and economies, countries have been using the "carrot on a stick" approach to negotiations. Trump came and changed the stick to a club. Who knows now whether he'll throw out the carrot altogether and whether others will do the same.

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Turnabout is fair play, it's not hypocrisy, it's actually resentment.

Whatever happened to "be the better man". Stoop to the perceived level of your worst enemy and you're just like you perceive them to be. Kirk shouldn't have died. But he also didn't say very nice things about people who aren't white males. There's a difference between celebrating his death and merely saying "he wasn't a very nice person unless you were white and male". Unfortunately, those two are being conflated. Th…

> But he also didn't say very nice things about people who aren't white males.

I'm so sick of hearing this. Please prove it.

Show me one damn clip.

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What an appalling comment. You can’t possibly justify what you’re doing so you pretend it’s something “the left” did first. Did the left deport students because they wrote an op-ed article, or went to a protest? Did senior administration officials call for jailing opponents for thought crimes?

No, but they did condition employment based on being left-wing: Required ‘diversity and inclusion’ statements amount to a political litmus test for hiring - https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-universitys-new-loyalty-oat... Diversity Statements Required for One-Fifth of Academic Jobs - https://www.schoolinfosystem.org/2021/11/11/study-diversity-... Berkeley Weeded Out Job Applicants Who Didn't Propose Specific Plans To…

But if we point out the McKinsey study that finds companies with greater ethnic and cultural diversity were 36% more likely to experience above-average profitability compared to their counterparts, the facade of the conservative dedication to free market capitalism crumbles.

Look, plenty of DEI programs weren’t done well, especially affirmative action programs at some prestigious universities where the design of the admissions programs were boneheaded at best and illegal at worst.

But in truth, many DEI opponents who just “want everyone to be treated equally with merit” don’t actually realize that “merit-only” doesn’t mean utopian pure equality, it means going back to a status quo state where the concept of merit is tainted by personal biases.

I also think this idea of “merit-only” is hyper-individualist, because this type of thinking resists the consideration of the social interaction of humans. A business owner needs employees who can not only have merit on their own but also work well together.

Typical corporate DEI was never about race/gender quotas or anything malicious like that, it was just training to help avoid employees/managers being biased toward solely hiring and working with people who are aligned with their world view.

And it isn’t just cultural or racial or gender-based, it’s also based on things like diversity of background. E.g., maybe we don’t just hire people with a degree from a prestigious university, maybe someone who got experience through some non-traditional way is also qualified.

A lot of the focus of the training is also just informing employees about how they can respect/accommodate different types of thought and culture so that the diverse people you already hired don’t decide to quit.

For my anecdote, I worked with a black woman in an SRE role who said she almost never lasts more than a year at an employer before she can’t stand someone she works with being racist/biased against her and has to quit for her own sanity. This is a person that is getting hired because she’s highly qualified but keeps getting pushed out because employees frequently have bias against her ingrained in them. Turnover costs tens of thousands of dollars for each occurrence, and that’s one area where DEI training is meant to help.

And yes, that’s why it’s important to use people’s preferred pronouns. Employees are supposed to be adults and not big dumb babies who can’t adapt to basic changes in the world. The company already hired a trans or non-binary person because they are the most qualified for the role, and now they want employees to not ruin it for them and cost the company a bunch of money because their bigotry causes them to quit.

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This is terrible, but luckily we have a large and robust network of free speech activists who've spent years organizing against "Cancel Culture" and defending people from getting fired for controversial views. I'm sure they'll spring into action and defend these poor folks. Let's check in on how they're doing...

Musk claimed he'd pay to legally defend anyone who was fired from their job for viewpoints on this. I'm waiting for him to fail to defend anyone who isn't his brand of right-wing

The key word that you've missed is 'unfairly'.

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No, but they did condition employment based on being left-wing: Required ‘diversity and inclusion’ statements amount to a political litmus test for hiring - https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-universitys-new-loyalty-oat... Diversity Statements Required for One-Fifth of Academic Jobs - https://www.schoolinfosystem.org/2021/11/11/study-diversity-... Berkeley Weeded Out Job Applicants Who Didn't Propose Specific Plans To…

But if we point out the McKinsey study that finds companies with greater ethnic and cultural diversity were 36% more likely to experience above-average profitability compared to their counterparts, the facade of the conservative dedication to free market capitalism crumbles. Look, plenty of DEI programs weren’t done well, especially affirmative action programs at some prestigious universities where the design of the…

I wanted to reply to this in detail because it's a very interesting topic for me, but the result exceeded the HN comment length limit (I don't know by how much) and this is already quite derailed from the original topic, and layers deep beneath a dead comment. I did save my thoughts in a local text file, though. Please feel free to reach out by email (I use this username on the Proton email service) if you're interested.

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Whatever happened to "be the better man". Stoop to the perceived level of your worst enemy and you're just like you perceive them to be. Kirk shouldn't have died. But he also didn't say very nice things about people who aren't white males. There's a difference between celebrating his death and merely saying "he wasn't a very nice person unless you were white and male". Unfortunately, those two are being conflated. Th…

> But he also didn't say very nice things about people who aren't white males. I'm so sick of hearing this. Please prove it. Show me one damn clip.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk...

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Can they be DDOSd by tons of fake submissions?

Possibly, but they will still have the data submitted before the DDOS. And then it should be pretty easy to filter out the fake submissions just by timestamp (any data submitted after the DDOS attack was initiated).

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Says a lot that the very first person listed on that 'charliesmurders.com' site isn't condemning or mocking Kirk at all but just expressing anxiety about the likelihood of a political backlash following his death. Even the people on 4chan were expressing confusion about this and saying her remarks seemed wholly innocuous.

Defamation sites? Is that Kirk‘s legacy.

Must be that American Christian values I heard about

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> But he also didn't say very nice things about people who aren't white males. I'm so sick of hearing this. Please prove it. Show me one damn clip.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk...

Well, reading all that was a waste of time. He didn't say anything controversial there at all. You're suffering from ideological capture if you read that and see a problem.
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