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Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Maybe people would if transit stations weren't de-facto homeless shelters and if it were safer to do so...

Yah I wouldn't recommend public transport in Toronto to anyone lol.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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This is a classic example of Poe's Law. If it's satire, it's brilliant. If it's serious, well ...

I don't know, as European resident it's serious and working solution.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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post #30

The URL and HTML title element have the current HN title, "Over 100 ships have sailed with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine." But FWIW, the Open Graph title meta element is "NRK reveals: Russian used Norwegian company to fool the West."

NRK is very aggressive on a/b testing headlines - presumably optimizing for click through rates.

Almost invariably if I read a story in the morning - the title will be different after noon.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Recently a man was shot and killed in a home invasion defending his family (also in Ontario). The police first claimed it was a targeted killing (implying the man was a gang member), then when that turned out false, the police said you should comply with home invaders instead of resisting... https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-top-cop-wa...

So.. I live in Ontario. And I actually agree with that statement. Why would you resist and risk your life instead of just complying? Material things aren't worth actually getting hurt over. The implication that "the police say this because they can't stop the crime" is IMO not the right take-away. The correct take-away is that a certain level of crime is unavoidable in practice, and you should prioritize your life ov…

Armed intruders can demand something one minute and something else the next. They may be mentally deranged, they may be sexually devious, there's a good chance they don't have a lot of moral limitations. The issue is not material things. That there's an optimal approach to dealing with them, when you're unarmed, is just not true. You must do what seems best given the situation.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Recently a man was shot and killed in a home invasion defending his family (also in Ontario). The police first claimed it was a targeted killing (implying the man was a gang member), then when that turned out false, the police said you should comply with home invaders instead of resisting... https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-top-cop-wa...

So.. I live in Ontario. And I actually agree with that statement. Why would you resist and risk your life instead of just complying? Material things aren't worth actually getting hurt over. The implication that "the police say this because they can't stop the crime" is IMO not the right take-away. The correct take-away is that a certain level of crime is unavoidable in practice, and you should prioritize your life ov…

The entire point is that in a home invasion, you have no guarantee the criminal is only interested in your property. If someone deliberately busts into an occupied house, there is a nonzero chance they are also interested in killing or assaulting (sexually or otherwise) the occupants.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Maybe people would if transit stations weren't de-facto homeless shelters and if it were safer to do so...

Yah I wouldn't recommend public transport in Toronto to anyone lol.

Yeah one time there was maintenance in the subway and they ran substitute buses, and it was also a super rainy day, and I got into the bus, sat down, looked to my right and there was a guy sleeping on the back seat, but you couldn't see him unless you were actually up close, so people kept coming up trying to sit, but then they saw (and smelled) the guy sleeping there and made funny faces lol.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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I thought this was made up nonsense, but for those who are thinking the same thing as me, a Toronto police officer really recommended doing exactly this [0]. [0] https://globalnews.ca/news/10359055/leave-car-keys-the-front...

It's good advice. Losing a car is much less worse than personal injury or worse. Everybody's a toughguy until a methhead who can't feel pain stabs you 15 times. Should the police crack down? Sure, but they aren't magicians, crime isn't gonna magically dissolve tomorrow. In the mean time, keep yourself safe by not inviting harm.

I'm living in a third-world country and I think this is madness. It's unimaginable here, to be afraid of "methheads" so much and giving up on your own property. I never saw "methhead" in my life, but I sure would do my best to protect my valuable property. May be I need to work more to buy a car, compared to average Canadian, I don't know.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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I thought this was made up nonsense, but for those who are thinking the same thing as me, a Toronto police officer really recommended doing exactly this [0]. [0] https://globalnews.ca/news/10359055/leave-car-keys-the-front...

It's good advice. Losing a car is much less worse than personal injury or worse. Everybody's a toughguy until a methhead who can't feel pain stabs you 15 times. Should the police crack down? Sure, but they aren't magicians, crime isn't gonna magically dissolve tomorrow. In the mean time, keep yourself safe by not inviting harm.

This attitude is exactly the problem. It only takes a small fraction of people to fight the meth head for the meth head to choose a different crime.

It's like the "we don't pay ransoms" logic only the math is infinitely more favorable to victims.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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I thought this was made up nonsense, but for those who are thinking the same thing as me, a Toronto police officer really recommended doing exactly this [0]. [0] https://globalnews.ca/news/10359055/leave-car-keys-the-front...

It's good advice. Losing a car is much less worse than personal injury or worse. Everybody's a toughguy until a methhead who can't feel pain stabs you 15 times. Should the police crack down? Sure, but they aren't magicians, crime isn't gonna magically dissolve tomorrow. In the mean time, keep yourself safe by not inviting harm.

Yeah and you can probably get insurance against theft right?

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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post #29

It’s crazy how modern and complex company structures became impossible to govern. There are so many cases in which criminals just open a ton of new companies, to overload the authorities. Until the authorities shut something down, they moved on three times already.

Only because punishment isn't harsh and quick enough for the initial offenders. The state fell short on that, and hence created an arbitrage opportunity.

With all the broadband communications and high definition video and audio, it should have been trivial to prove the fraud and disincentivize committing it by sufficiently punishing it.

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