I worked with Greg many years ago, back at EO. Very smart and all, but what stood out most was that he was just a really good person. Very sorry to hear this news.
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#42I read his page about his health (I’m thankful for those who choose to do this) and I’m wondering if someone can help me understand how a year of reduced appetite and weight loss doesn’t trigger any alarms.
Is that something that can just happen to people and be no meaningful signal that anything is wrong? Ie. can a perfectly healthy person struggle to gain weight if they’re trying? I guess I’ve always perceived it to generally be the opposite.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
"If you know Rebecca (many reading this won't), you know how amazing she is. She's worked with many cancer patients, though her work at Commonweal, and her numerous award-winning cook books. She would call me her "rock", but really, she's mine. I have been unbelievably lucky in life, and particularly in my relationship with Rebecca. I've really accomplished my life goals – my family is well looked after, I've had a v…
Professional joy does not matter. Do not make your job your life. Family matters, personal goals matter, professional goals however do not. When my father had cancer the only question his employer ever asked was "when is he coming back to work? We need him here". He passed not long after. Your work does not care about you, no matter if its a corporation or a tiny business. If your personal goal is to be a professiona…
Professional joy can be about a lot more than just making as much money as possible. If anything is sad it's that someone fails to understand this basic thing. We're thinking, often fantastically creative beings, and our lives need not focus only on family, love and friends. They can also be partly absorbed by our external pursuits, professionally, as an outlet for all that cognitive power inside us.
Should the creator of the WWW be sad that it gave him joy? Or the scientists who programmed the Apollo missions, because they also made money off these things or worked for others while doing so at times? Or in a different direction, should a Picasso or Anthony Hopkins not take enormous pleasure from a life time of professional creation? Much more banal examples are just as valid, as long as they gave sincere happiness to those living them.
What a bizarrely narrow definition you have of professional joy.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Professional joy does not matter. Do not make your job your life. Family matters, personal goals matter, professional goals however do not. When my father had cancer the only question his employer ever asked was "when is he coming back to work? We need him here". He passed not long after. Your work does not care about you, no matter if its a corporation or a tiny business. If your personal goal is to be a professiona…
It's hilarious this is being blasted. People on this website are so sadly out of touch and misguided.
People are sadly out of touch and misguided for scorching an absurdly narrow definition of professional joy that categorizes all manifestations of it as the same stupid thing? Really?
None of the millions of people throughout history who have enjoyed a creative outlet for their cognitive abilities also involve professional work should be proud or happy about the things they made because someone might think they're sad, misguided, exploited fools?
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Professional joy does not matter. Do not make your job your life. Family matters, personal goals matter, professional goals however do not. When my father had cancer the only question his employer ever asked was "when is he coming back to work? We need him here". He passed not long after. Your work does not care about you, no matter if its a corporation or a tiny business. If your personal goal is to be a professiona…
Professional joy can be about a lot more than just making as much money as possible. If anything is sad it's that someone fails to understand this basic thing. We're thinking, often fantastically creative beings, and our lives need not focus only on family, love and friends. They can also be partly absorbed by our external pursuits, professionally, as an outlet for all that cognitive power inside us. Should the creat…
Should the people who built Palantir be proud of their work? Or the people who built Amazons employee surveillance?
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Professional joy does not matter. Do not make your job your life. Family matters, personal goals matter, professional goals however do not. When my father had cancer the only question his employer ever asked was "when is he coming back to work? We need him here". He passed not long after. Your work does not care about you, no matter if its a corporation or a tiny business. If your personal goal is to be a professiona…
It's possible to enjoy work and make time for family, too. It can be difficult to find such a job, but it's worth the effort. I've found having a good job that I enjoy is a significant factor in me being emotionally available to my family. Work doesn't have to be a combative relationship between employee and employer. Though I do think it's a bit easier to find outside of the tech industry. You can still be doing sof…
I am lucky enough to work for a friend of mine and I like the job. Its not fulfilling though. I can pretty much work on whatever I currently want as long as it supports the business but its all meaningless. I'd find joy in working on something that can actually help people in a meaningful way. Working on event tickets and cashless payment isn't really that...
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Professional joy can be about a lot more than just making as much money as possible. If anything is sad it's that someone fails to understand this basic thing. We're thinking, often fantastically creative beings, and our lives need not focus only on family, love and friends. They can also be partly absorbed by our external pursuits, professionally, as an outlet for all that cognitive power inside us. Should the creat…
Should the people who built Palantir be proud of their work? Or the people who built Amazons employee surveillance?
What an idiotic whataboutism that has nothing to do with my main point. Because people who work for morally ambiguous projects might also be proud of their professional work, nobody working on anything else should be? Or what are you saying, because it seems a bit muddled.
Also, to answer specifically to these folks, maybe they shouldn't be morally, but if it made them personally proud, as far as quality of life FOR THEM personally goes, it's still a valid example. Morality and personal happiness aren't always directly connected in some people.
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#48Holy cow!
I litterally convinced TODAY my data governance team to investigate the adoption of JSON-LD at scale on our web service internal portal.
Kudos man! Your heritage is still alive!
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#49I you don't know who Gregg Kellogg was: https://greggkellogg.net/foaf
His resume link 404'd. archive.org copy is at https://web.archive.org/web/20110913122328/https://greggkell... He worked at NeXT and Go Corp.'s Eo spinoff, two hot startups of the late 80s/early 90s.
Seems it moved here:
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#50Gregg helped me and my team many times - pro bono. I once made a silly typo in some code that he kindly reviewed. When he found the error, he pointed to it with a wink. Always helpful on big stuff and small stuff. His tools are first class. And I had an online dialog with him within the last 2 months and had no idea about his condition. Will miss him.