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Re: Zoox robotaxi launches in Las Vegas

#41

I feel like robotaxis are just electric bikes and scooters of 2025. I very well could be wrong (I think I am) but that's the vibes I'm getting from the robotaxis industry right now.

> that's the vibes I'm getting from the robotaxis industry

…what does this mean? Are vibes another way of saying you feel like it without evidence?

Re: Zoox robotaxi launches in Las Vegas

#42
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be onto something. Don't stop that train of thought. Keep going.

We can called it a "Beneficial Usage Service" or BUS, for short.

I like that, because it plays on the Latin "omnibus", which means "for everybody"

Re: Zoox robotaxi launches in Las Vegas

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you misinterpreted, OP meant that robots will respect the rules, which humans typically don't, e.g. driving at 50 where the limit is 30.

in which case I apologise :) I've seen plenty of robotaxi huckers advocate for speed limits 'appropriate for robot response times'

> I've seen plenty of robotaxi huckers advocate for speed limits 'appropriate for robot response times'

Where?

Re: Zoox robotaxi launches in Las Vegas

#44

I feel like robotaxis are just electric bikes and scooters of 2025. I very well could be wrong (I think I am) but that's the vibes I'm getting from the robotaxis industry right now.

> robotaxis are just electric bikes and scooters of 2025

Ubiquitous, and life changing for the millions of people who use them daily?

Re: Zoox robotaxi launches in Las Vegas

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you misinterpreted, OP meant that robots will respect the rules, which humans typically don't, e.g. driving at 50 where the limit is 30.

yes, but no. Yes, they'll do it for now. No, once they're as normal as humans, they'll definitely be tweaked to maximize profit. And that will include as much speeding as risk/reward dictates. So yeah, they'll do the same thing as humans eventually.

> that will include as much speeding as risk/reward dictates

Speeding can usually be brushed off as carelessness. Where it can’t, we charge it more harshly.

A robot programmed to speed serves a jury mens rea on a plate.

Re: Zoox robotaxi launches in Las Vegas

#46
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It’s a cute gimmick for tourists but it won’t contribute to public transportation.

You managed to come off as condescending, smug and a zealot in one sentence. Bravo. I imagine this stems from not meeting strong town criteria because you aren't forced to share a seat with a stranger or some similar nonsense

It's a cute comment for dunking, but it won't contribute to quality discourse on this website.

Re: Zoox robotaxi launches in Las Vegas

#47

I have a good sense of what Waymo and Tesla’s capabilities are, but not Zoox. Can anyone here clue me in on how Zoox compares?

https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.com/2025/02/03/2024-disen... says it's about 40% as good as a Waymo if you use disengagement as a metric.

Re: Zoox robotaxi launches in Las Vegas

#48

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How so? You realize there are people who cannot legally drive for whom a robotaxi is a life changing achievement?

Why wouldn't they just take a taxi driven by a human? Or a bus (also driven by a human)?

> Why wouldn't they just take a taxi driven by a human?

Because the humans in New York, Phoenix, Los Angeles and San Francisco frequently cancel rides, get lost, drive unsafely, pitch me on their religion and smell. (They also must be tipped, at which point the Waymo is the same price or cheaper than the human-driven ride.)

When I have the option of a robotaxi, I pay a premium for it. It’s novel. It’s fun. But most importantly, it’s safe, punctual and comfortable. Otherwise, I'm fine taking a human-driven car. Having more options makes those cities a better experience.

Re: Zoox robotaxi launches in Las Vegas

#49
post #44

I feel like robotaxis are just electric bikes and scooters of 2025. I very well could be wrong (I think I am) but that's the vibes I'm getting from the robotaxis industry right now.

> robotaxis are just electric bikes and scooters of 2025 Ubiquitous, and life changing for the millions of people who use them daily?

Deployed recklessly, inevitably cluttering our pavements, filling our canals amoung other antisocial externalities that taxpayers get the bill for?

Re: Zoox robotaxi launches in Las Vegas

#50

Hopefully some genius will figure out a way of joining lots of these together into a 'gigapod'. That might have enough capacity to actually work at city scale.

You say this in jest, but Uber is trending towards this right now:

https://www.uber.com/us/en/ride/uberx-share/

Convergent Evolution happening in realtime- it's almost as if community pooled forms of transportation are the most efficient...

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