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Re: Building my childhood dream PC

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Even though it's off-topic, my favourite case in a build by the same guy. Nowadays it would work with just a Ryzen 9700X: https://fabiensanglard.net/the_beautiful_machine/index.html [Edit] Maybe not completly off-topic since it would be my dream PC.

I bought this case a couple of years ago after this article was linked here.

I love it. It's beautifully engineered. Top quality. It sits at the corner of my desk proudly silent.

I'm likely about to upgrade the pc within but the case will remain a strong feature of my desk.

Re: Building my childhood dream PC

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post #41
post #38

Even though it's off-topic, my favourite case in a build by the same guy. Nowadays it would work with just a Ryzen 9700X: https://fabiensanglard.net/the_beautiful_machine/index.html [Edit] Maybe not completly off-topic since it would be my dream PC.

I bought this case a couple of years ago after this article was linked here. I love it. It's beautifully engineered. Top quality. It sits at the corner of my desk proudly silent. I'm likely about to upgrade the pc within but the case will remain a strong feature of my desk.

Do you use it as a gaming PC (or for other high GPU load activities)? And if so, what's your take on noise under load?

Edit: I guess this is a senseless question if the case really only uses passive cooling. I was assuming there would still be fans somewhere.

I despise my current PC's fan noise and I'm always on the lookout for a quieter solution.

Re: Building my childhood dream PC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought this case a couple of years ago after this article was linked here. I love it. It's beautifully engineered. Top quality. It sits at the corner of my desk proudly silent. I'm likely about to upgrade the pc within but the case will remain a strong feature of my desk.

Do you use it as a gaming PC (or for other high GPU load activities)? And if so, what's your take on noise under load? Edit: I guess this is a senseless question if the case really only uses passive cooling. I was assuming there would still be fans somewhere. I despise my current PC's fan noise and I'm always on the lookout for a quieter solution.

It's a dev workstation for me.

Currently inside is an i7-9600 which I limit to 3.6ghz and a cheap 1050ti.

The CPU is technically over the TDP limit of the case but with the frequency limit in place I never exceed about 70degC and due to my workloads I'm rarely maxing the CPU anyway.

There is zero noise under any load. There is no moving parts inside the case at all, no spinning HDD, no PSU fan, no CPU fan, no GPU fan.

Re: Building my childhood dream PC

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The only market for desktops is gaming. Hence nvidia will just slap a cpu on their board and use the unified memory model to sell you an all in one solution. Essentially a desktop console. Maybe some modularization will survive for slow storage. But other than that demand for modular desktops is dead. Cases will probably survive since gamers love flashy rigs.

There is still lot of productivity stuff that benefits from power of desktops. Engineering (Ansys etc), local AI development, 3D modeling, working with large C++/Rust codebases, scientific computing, etc etc. And related to gaming there is of course the huge game developer market too. There is a reason why nvidia and amd still make workstation class GPUs for big bucks.

But all of that hinges on fast off-chip memory. If manufacturers agree that this memory and the SoC need to be soldered, there's not much left to swap out except PCIe boards.

Re: Building my childhood dream PC

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This is a pretty common behaviour. My dad has been buying both his dream Amigas and his dream car, a Triumph TR6. I bought my dream childhood console, a Gameboy Advance SP (I only had a regular Gameboy Advance).

Re: Building my childhood dream PC

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If the processor comes with builtin GPU, NPU and RAM will you be really building the system

Sure. Building a PC already is barely building anything. You buy a handful of components and click them into each other.

A lot of flexibility still exists

Re: Building my childhood dream PC

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought this case a couple of years ago after this article was linked here. I love it. It's beautifully engineered. Top quality. It sits at the corner of my desk proudly silent. I'm likely about to upgrade the pc within but the case will remain a strong feature of my desk.

Do you use it as a gaming PC (or for other high GPU load activities)? And if so, what's your take on noise under load? Edit: I guess this is a senseless question if the case really only uses passive cooling. I was assuming there would still be fans somewhere. I despise my current PC's fan noise and I'm always on the lookout for a quieter solution.

Did you have no success upgrading your fans (Noctua etc)? Still too loud? How about water cooling?

Re: Building my childhood dream PC

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There are a handful of professional uses for a workstation that are hard to beat with a laptop. If you're compiling code, you generally want as much concurrency as you can get, as well as great single core speed when the task parallelism runs out. There aren't really any laptops with high core counts, and even when you have something with horsepower, you run into thermal limits. You can try and make do with remoting…

All of these can be done much better on the cloud (I can spawn as big of a machine as my pocket can afford). And with today’s tooling (vs code & jetbrains remote development) you don’t even notice that you develop on a remote machine and not your local. So the desktop developer market is for those who are not willing to use cloud. And this is a very small minority. (FYI I am not endorsing cloud over local development…

Much of my PhD thesis was/is done traveling in places with poor, poor Internet. Currently on my laptop in rural Calabria, where I pull a blazing fast 60 kbps, sometimes. Would be very irritating waiting for the compiler/theorem prover to go brr, remotely… I can hardly edit a Google doc out here!

This doesn’t contradict your minority point, but it really does make me appreciate local-first.

Re: Building my childhood dream PC

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no, you tell us why you think the next ten years are going to be different than the last thirty

If the processor comes with builtin GPU, NPU and RAM will you be really building the system

RAM? Are we expecting on-chip RAM any time soon?
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