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A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Are we forgetting fox news, rush limbaugh...?

i don't think the ven diagram between people who watch tiktoks and rush limbaugh has much overlap. I think the republicans strategy towards social media platforms is extremely effective (sadly)

Yes, given that Limbaugh has not produced new content in four years due to his death, there would be no overlap nowadays.

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The problem is, they don't like normal people. They don't trust them or think their opinions have value, and they've made that clear over the last several years. It took a while, but the normal people have finally started to get it. It wasn't always that way. Democrats like Bill Clinton used to be able to go out and talk to normal people and make them feel like he liked them and sympathized with them. I remember when…

> There's not a single prominent Democrat whom normal people look at and feel like he or she cares about them. What about Bernie, AOC, Zohran? I think there are a few but probably none of the establishment ones.

The problem is that the DNC establishment feels the same way about Bernie, AOC and Zohran as it does about the normal people that they can't talk to.

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This seems like yet another a hilariously disastrous misstep on the part of the Democrats, dark money and restricted speech and red tape. Have they considered just, you know, talking to people on the internet? The way normal humans do? The way Trump has done with such wildly incredible success?

The problem is, they don't like normal people. They don't trust them or think their opinions have value, and they've made that clear over the last several years. It took a while, but the normal people have finally started to get it. It wasn't always that way. Democrats like Bill Clinton used to be able to go out and talk to normal people and make them feel like he liked them and sympathized with them. I remember when…

AOC? Really?

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i don't think the ven diagram between people who watch tiktoks and rush limbaugh has much overlap. I think the republicans strategy towards social media platforms is extremely effective (sadly)

Or maybe a consolidated media industry is just not representative of what people actually believe.

well i believe media definitle affects what people believe, of course it only works to a limit, but i don't think a single person should own multiple media outlets. You gotta choose, you get 1 thing, that's it

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at this point i'm not mad the democrats are doing propaganda i'm just offended at how shit they are at it. The republicans brainwashed half the country and overturned the constitution with 4 podcast bros and a dream and the democrats are busy trying to kick their most popular members out of the party.

The current far-right effort started with the postwar "think tank" boom, and that crowd has been working (successfully) to bend policy and law so they can enable and guide the creation of massive right-wing propaganda networks since the 70s. Fox News, Sinclair Media, a handful of dominant AM radio and now podcast production & distribution networks, and so on.

This isn't recent; we've been heading this way for decades, and not by accident.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is, they don't like normal people. They don't trust them or think their opinions have value, and they've made that clear over the last several years. It took a while, but the normal people have finally started to get it. It wasn't always that way. Democrats like Bill Clinton used to be able to go out and talk to normal people and make them feel like he liked them and sympathized with them. I remember when…

> There's not a single prominent Democrat whom normal people look at and feel like he or she cares about them. What about Bernie, AOC, Zohran? I think there are a few but probably none of the establishment ones.

The DNC sidelined Bernie like you wouldn't believe as soon as it became clear he had potential to be elected. During one of his April 2016 rallies they livestreamed a "reporter" onsite talking about her drunken adventures the previous night rather than showing his speech, the cheers, and the line around the block to get in, that was going on behind her at the time. AOC made no notable efforts to be genuinely inclusive. Zohran is still trying to reach the caliber to be a contender listed next to the other two names and sounds like the infighting is already coming for him.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Or maybe a consolidated media industry is just not representative of what people actually believe.

well i believe media definitle affects what people believe, of course it only works to a limit, but i don't think a single person should own multiple media outlets. You gotta choose, you get 1 thing, that's it

We used to limit local market monopolization and total reach of, at least, public airwaves broadcasters.

That was a good idea. But we stopped.

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Or maybe a consolidated media industry is just not representative of what people actually believe.

well i believe media definitle affects what people believe, of course it only works to a limit, but i don't think a single person should own multiple media outlets. You gotta choose, you get 1 thing, that's it

Seems to be working itself out. Mainstream, traditional, legacy, or whatever you want to call it, is losing their audience.

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To suggest the right wing media ecosystem is "just talking to people on the Internet" is hilariously divorced from reality. https://apnews.com/article/russian-interference-presidential...

That just seems like an influence campaign. I expect every country to try to meddle in each other's politics, for their own gain. Also Tim Pool? Rubin? Those are small fries. Putin couldn't afford Joe Rogan or Ben Shapiro?

Do you mean Tim "White House Press" Pool? Not such small fries anymore.

(edit: context) https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maga-commentator-who...

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at this point i'm not mad the democrats are doing propaganda i'm just offended at how shit they are at it. The republicans brainwashed half the country and overturned the constitution with 4 podcast bros and a dream and the democrats are busy trying to kick their most popular members out of the party.

The current far-right effort started with the postwar "think tank" boom, and that crowd has been working (successfully) to bend policy and law so they can enable and guide the creation of massive right-wing propaganda networks since the 70s. Fox News, Sinclair Media, a handful of dominant AM radio and now podcast production & distribution networks, and so on. This isn't recent; we've been heading this way for decades…

absolutly but i think a big percentage of the young Rep votes have been entirely endoctrinated by a handfull of social media voices who would have hated the traditionnal rep propaganda. I wonder how american politics would look today without the 3 idiots and their friends
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