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Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by ksec »

iknowstuff wrote: post #32
Deuter8 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops. Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option ?

I’ve never missed having buttons on the macbook trackpad lol How are they slower/impossible?

Problem is none of the trackpad on PC are as good as the Apple trackpad

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by diggan »

criddell wrote: post #14
Deuter8 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops. Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option ?

What workflows are impossible with a trackpad but possible with a mouse?

With the trackpads that have built-in clicks in the pad itself, I've always found it really difficult to drag-and-drop stuff if it has to be pulled longer than a few pixels. Just moving and pressing against a surface seems to not be a super accurate movement in general.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by School-Cotton »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #15

Kinda wish you guys didn't have an Nvidia product at all. It's only really useful for Windows users, but openly hostile and offensive to Linux desktop users.

Virtually all AI training is done on Linux with Nvidia hardware. In the desktop space, I've run Linux with Nvidia for many, many years. It's utter nonsense to claim that Nvidia isn't useful on Linux.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by moelf »

vzaliva wrote: post #40

The idea of Framework laptops sounds great! But I’m wondering: has anyone done an economic analysis comparing buying a Framework laptop a few years ago and gradually upgrading it, versus buying a similar popular brand laptop and just upgrading by getting a new model? I’m not trolling, I’m genuinely considering Framework as my next laptop.

I think a large economic value also comes from repair-ability. If nothing ever breaks (until battery dies), I don't think anyone can compete with entry level MacBook in terms of experience/price.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by miloignis »

vzaliva wrote: post #40

The idea of Framework laptops sounds great! But I’m wondering: has anyone done an economic analysis comparing buying a Framework laptop a few years ago and gradually upgrading it, versus buying a similar popular brand laptop and just upgrading by getting a new model? I’m not trolling, I’m genuinely considering Framework as my next laptop.

Another consideration that has really come true for me is repairs - I accidentally spilled a bottle of gin over my framework and was able to only replace the main board for under half the cost of a brand new machine.

I'm very happy with my framework!

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by jayd16 »

iknowstuff wrote: post #32
Deuter8 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops. Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option ?

I’ve never missed having buttons on the macbook trackpad lol How are they slower/impossible?

I assume some gestures are simply not possible. Like click-to-drag and scroll simultaneously. Not every app handles gutter-hover-to-scroll in a usable way. On a mouse or a pad with buttons, you can keep the left click held down and scroll with the wheel or gesture. Uni-pads make this impossible.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by sorrythanks »

diggan wrote: post #43
criddell wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What workflows are impossible with a trackpad but possible with a mouse?

With the trackpads that have built-in clicks in the pad itself, I've always found it really difficult to drag-and-drop stuff if it has to be pulled longer than a few pixels. Just moving and pressing against a surface seems to not be a super accurate movement in general.

Have you tried holding with one finger and aiming with the other?

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

christiangenco wrote: post #42
juujian wrote: post #9

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You knew the question was coming. ThinkPad style trackpoint keyboard!

Hah, I'm curious if this is legally possible. I've never seen that on any non-ThinkPad laptop.

I have multiple Dell laptops that have a mouse nub in the middle of the keyboard

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by noooooooph »

christiangenco wrote: post #42
juujian wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You knew the question was coming. ThinkPad style trackpoint keyboard!

Hah, I'm curious if this is legally possible. I've never seen that on any non-ThinkPad laptop.

I recall Dell had laptops in the past at some point that had blue trackpoint-like nubs
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