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YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

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Re: YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

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> "You know, YouTube is constantly working on new tools and experimenting with stuff," Beato says. "They're a best-in-class company, I've got nothing but good things to say. YouTube changed my life." My despondent brain auto-translated that to: "My livelihood depends on Youtube"

I mean is Rick Beato, he tries really hard to have the most polarizing opinion every single time.

Re: YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

#42

Isn't this similar to what e.g. Instagram and co have done for ages? Even smartphones do it automatically for you, digital post-processing to compensate for the limitations of the cameras.

> Even smartphones do it automatically for you, digital post-processing to compensate for the limitations of the cameras.

The level of post-processing matters. There is a difference between color grading an image and removing wrinkles from a face.

The line is not cut clear but these companies are pushing the boundaries so we get used to fake imagery. That is not good.

Re: YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

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post #8

> "You know, YouTube is constantly working on new tools and experimenting with stuff," Beato says. "They're a best-in-class company, I've got nothing but good things to say. YouTube changed my life." My despondent brain auto-translated that to: "My livelihood depends on Youtube"

xkcd 2015 closer than you think due to the magical technology of money https://xkcd.com/2015/

Wow, that xkcd really scares me. I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream. It's definitely something that could realistically happen in the near future, maybe even mandated by the EU

Re: YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

#44

Isn't this similar to what e.g. Instagram and co have done for ages? Even smartphones do it automatically for you, digital post-processing to compensate for the limitations of the cameras.

I’ve been using Instagram since the beginning and don’t think it has ever applied any kind of filter or AI upscaling, unrequested.

Maybe you’re thinking of TikTok and samsung facial smoothing filters? Those are a lot more subtle and can be turned off.

Re: YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just don't smoke/eat junk/do drugs etc. They put addictive shit in your face and force you to use their bloated interface to access the service.

The worst thing for me is they don't show the channel names. So much of the channels pushing Star Wars shorts are quite obvious bot names, and it's hard to filter these from legitimate SW content creators who are, on top of that, all using the same damn AI voice.

If I hear an AI voice I click the little menu button with three dots, then click don't show this channel or whatever it says.

The Venn diagram of AI voice users and good content creators is pretty close to two separate circles. I don't really care about the minority in the intersection.

Re: YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

#47
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "can not turn off" part is the most jarring. Seriously, did none of Californian PMs hear about the concept of "being multilingual" and not needing to translate non-English content? --- By the way, this reminds me also of another stupid Google thing related to languages: Say your Chrome is set to English. When encountering another language page, Chrome will (since a decade ago or so) helpfully ask you to auto-tran…

"Złomnik: Dodge Caravan Is a Large Wall Unit"

The car that changed the car industry forever. Something. Something. Fake american accent.

Re: YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

#48
This is getting into conspiracy territory but my personal assumption that they're trying to gaslight people into thinking that these weird AI artifacts are just how videos work, so that it's harder to distinguish between real videos and AI generated ones.

Re: YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

#49

Youtube says this was done for select Youtube Shorts as a denoising process. However most popular channels on Youtube, which seem to be the pool selected for this experiment, typically already have well lit and graded videos shouldn't benefit much from extra denoising from a visual point of view. It's true though that aggressive denoising gives things an artificially generated look since both processes use denoising…

> Perhaps this was done to optimize video encoding, since the less noise/surface detail there is the easier it is to compress. If so it's really just another kind of lossy compression. No different in principle from encoding a video to AV-1 format.

Given the denoising is said to be aggressive enough to be noticeable on already compressed video I think criticism of it is fair. Just that it should be distinguished from something like Tiktok's 'beautifier' modifications, which from titles like the BBC's come to mind.

Re: YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

#50

So I feel like article doesn't address the "why" of it all. Why auto AI upscale?

Here's how I imagine it went:-

1. See that AI upscaling works kinda well on certain illustrations.

2. Start a project to see if you can do the same with video.

3. Develop 15 different quality metrics, trying to capture what it means when "it looks a bit fake"

4. Project's results aren't very good, but it's embarrassing to admit failure.

5. Choose a metric which went up, declare victory, put it live in production.

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