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Launch HN: Skope (YC S25) – Outcome-based pricing for software products

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Re: Launch HN: Skope (YC S25) – Outcome-based pricing for software products

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you - would love to hear more about the gaming use case. Not quite, because the buyer and seller would never agree to that being a real outcome. It would have to meet certain requirements/thresholds for customer satisfaction. That’s where we come in to verify that those contract terms are actually met as it happens. There are a ton of ways to calculate cost savings depending on what it’s built for. Voice agents…

'gaming' as in 'game the system, take advantage of' .

Ah got it. Gaming the system in what sense?

Re: Launch HN: Skope (YC S25) – Outcome-based pricing for software products

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> depend on every single customer reporting each outcome quickly and accurately.

Why would the end customer have to report this? The company should be determining this and in very specific scenarios, ask the customer to approve the outcome.

It’s very easy to game though if you’re relying on end-customers to always self report, just look at all the people getting refunds on Uber Eats because the food wasn’t the “right outcome”

Re: Launch HN: Skope (YC S25) – Outcome-based pricing for software products

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> depend on every single customer reporting each outcome quickly and accurately. Why would the end customer have to report this? The company should be determining this and in very specific scenarios, ask the customer to approve the outcome. It’s very easy to game though if you’re relying on end-customers to always self report, just look at all the people getting refunds on Uber Eats because the food wasn’t the “right…

Gotcha - the company can’t always determine this without needing access to their customers systems in order to. We automate that for them.

Agreed and that’s what we are working to eliminate. It’s on us to approve what a successful outcome is, based on the terms of their agreement.

Re: Launch HN: Skope (YC S25) – Outcome-based pricing for software products

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I'd suggest making your developer documentation public. A huge part of understanding whether I need this or not is reading how to build in your outcome-based pricing integration into my product.

Thanks for that - on it. Would love to run you through it myself. How can I reach you?

dev@locunity.com - thanks!

Re: Launch HN: Skope (YC S25) – Outcome-based pricing for software products

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This sounds really great in concept. I don't see detail here. As someone who would be interested in using this, can you clearly explain how you will measure and track the outcomes? That's the key detail that matters. Relying on customers to self-report is not sufficient, and an automated self-report-system is not a true improvement.

Thank you! To define the outcomes, it will be up to our customer and their users to state precisely what an outcome is and how it will appear. Once we have that information, we sync into their systems of record and act as that verification layer. It’s not an automated self-report-system, because they don’t have to report anything. As the work gets completed successfully (ie, a meeting booked or a customer support tic…

"we sync into their systems of record and act as that verification layer"

As long as those 'systems of record' are controlled by the customer, then that is self reporting. If they don't enter a sale into their CRM or tag it differently there's nothing you can do.

The industries where I have seen pay-for-outcomes work are industries where there are regulated legal controls or strong third parties. For example, a lot of financial services have commission payments that are based on the actual invested assets as measured by the bank/custodian, that then get paid out to salespeople or partnerships.

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