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EU requires legal presence on our soil for US tech giants, so they usually open offices in Ireland because thats cheapest.
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Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users
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Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users
#424chan's response (through lawyers): https://x.com/prestonjbyrne/status/1956391746029428914 Full text: "BYRNE & STORM, P.C. ATTORNEYS-AT-LAW Re: Statement Regarding Ofcom's Reported Provisional Notice - 4chan Community Support LLC Byrne & Storm, P.C. ( @ByrneStorm ) and Coleman Law, P.C. ( @RonColeman ) represent 4chan Community Support LLC ("4chan"). According to press reports, the U.K. Office of Communications ("Ofc…
To me that response seems ridiculous in several ways. If they think that UK law doesn't apply to them (which seems very credible) why react at all? Describing what Ofcom is doing, which is, as far as I can tell, just doing the job it was set up to do, as "illegal"? Suggesting that 4chan has some connection to "technology firms"?
If they were going to write anything at all, how about "I fart in your general direction"?
Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users
#434chan's response (through lawyers): https://x.com/prestonjbyrne/status/1956391746029428914 Full text: "BYRNE & STORM, P.C. ATTORNEYS-AT-LAW Re: Statement Regarding Ofcom's Reported Provisional Notice - 4chan Community Support LLC Byrne & Storm, P.C. ( @ByrneStorm ) and Coleman Law, P.C. ( @RonColeman ) represent 4chan Community Support LLC ("4chan"). According to press reports, the U.K. Office of Communications ("Ofc…
It’s funny. Their “Advertise” page explicitly mentions UK on demographics section (7% of users). Both Advertise and Rules pages explicitly mention local along with US laws. It looks like they actually do business in UK serving ads to UK users and thus should be subject to local laws themselves.
If they want their assets, they will have to use U.S courts to get them and U.S courts will refuse to enforce British law that violates the first amendment. It's pretty simple actually. If they had assets in Britain, then they could get to them, but they don't.
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> they tell ISPs to block it Seems likely. And then that won't work, and they'll tell ISPs to block VPN traffic too.
ISPs blocking it will mostly work, I think. Most people can't be bothered with a VPN so if 4chan is inaccessible they'll just read/watch something else instead.
I think you can't post on 4chan if you're using a VPN.
Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users
#464chan's response (through lawyers): https://x.com/prestonjbyrne/status/1956391746029428914 Full text: "BYRNE & STORM, P.C. ATTORNEYS-AT-LAW Re: Statement Regarding Ofcom's Reported Provisional Notice - 4chan Community Support LLC Byrne & Storm, P.C. ( @ByrneStorm ) and Coleman Law, P.C. ( @RonColeman ) represent 4chan Community Support LLC ("4chan"). According to press reports, the U.K. Office of Communications ("Ofc…
To me that response seems ridiculous in several ways. If they think that UK law doesn't apply to them (which seems very credible) why react at all? Describing what Ofcom is doing, which is, as far as I can tell, just doing the job it was set up to do, as "illegal"? Suggesting that 4chan has some connection to "technology firms"? If they were going to write anything at all, how about "I fart in your general direction"…
The response is effectively that, but with a framing much more amenable to their own future defense on both legal and political fronts, if ever required.
Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users
#474chan's response (through lawyers): https://x.com/prestonjbyrne/status/1956391746029428914 Full text: "BYRNE & STORM, P.C. ATTORNEYS-AT-LAW Re: Statement Regarding Ofcom's Reported Provisional Notice - 4chan Community Support LLC Byrne & Storm, P.C. ( @ByrneStorm ) and Coleman Law, P.C. ( @RonColeman ) represent 4chan Community Support LLC ("4chan"). According to press reports, the U.K. Office of Communications ("Ofc…
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Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users
#484chan's response (through lawyers): https://x.com/prestonjbyrne/status/1956391746029428914 Full text: "BYRNE & STORM, P.C. ATTORNEYS-AT-LAW Re: Statement Regarding Ofcom's Reported Provisional Notice - 4chan Community Support LLC Byrne & Storm, P.C. ( @ByrneStorm ) and Coleman Law, P.C. ( @RonColeman ) represent 4chan Community Support LLC ("4chan"). According to press reports, the U.K. Office of Communications ("Ofc…
To me that response seems ridiculous in several ways. If they think that UK law doesn't apply to them (which seems very credible) why react at all? Describing what Ofcom is doing, which is, as far as I can tell, just doing the job it was set up to do, as "illegal"? Suggesting that 4chan has some connection to "technology firms"? If they were going to write anything at all, how about "I fart in your general direction"…
> If they think that UK law doesn't apply to them (which seems very credible) why react at all?
If I get a speeding ticket in the mail from another state I've never been to, I'm not going to ignore it, I'm going to explain to the court why it's invalid. Ignoring legal notices, even from other jurisdictions than one's own, is generally unwise (with some exceptions). So is responding with insults instead of concrete legal justification for why this is inapplicable.
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#49USA is all about free speech because the big tech companies are in USA and behind closed doors do what the US Government tells them. If Meta/Google/Twitter/TikTok were foreign companies they'd likely be banned or regulated to be allowed to operate here.
USA is all about free speech because it is literally the first right in the Bill of Rights. Regardless of the extensive infringements we've suffered against our basic human rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, there is a limit to how far they can take it.
Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users
#504chan's response (through lawyers): https://x.com/prestonjbyrne/status/1956391746029428914 Full text: "BYRNE & STORM, P.C. ATTORNEYS-AT-LAW Re: Statement Regarding Ofcom's Reported Provisional Notice - 4chan Community Support LLC Byrne & Storm, P.C. ( @ByrneStorm ) and Coleman Law, P.C. ( @RonColeman ) represent 4chan Community Support LLC ("4chan"). According to press reports, the U.K. Office of Communications ("Ofc…
It’s funny. Their “Advertise” page explicitly mentions UK on demographics section (7% of users). Both Advertise and Rules pages explicitly mention local along with US laws. It looks like they actually do business in UK serving ads to UK users and thus should be subject to local laws themselves.
Serving ads to UK users does not grant the UK enforcement jurisdiction over 4chan. They have no presence, assets, or agents in the UK. If the UK still attempts to issue a judgement contrary to the first amendment, the constitution in general, and/or US law, it will not be recognized by US courts.
In short, the UK can kick rocks.