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Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by pas »

petcat wrote: post #40
perihelions wrote: post #8

As a remark, not a criticism, such a deliberate promotion is probably illegal in the UK market, > "But Ofcom says platforms required to introduce "highly effective" methods to check user age must not host, share or permit content that encourages use of VPNs to get around age checks. The government has also told the BBC it would be illegal for platforms to do so." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn72ydj70g5o

> must not host, share or permit content that encourages use of VPNs to get around age checks. The government has also told the BBC it would be illegal for platforms to do so Holy. Crap. I knew the UK was going off the deep end with these laws, but this actually looks like China-level government reach.

next step is to try to make VPNs illegal (or require age verification for them, of course)

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by pas »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #26

Presenting government ID to random entities is literally what government ID's exist for. Paranoia about this is silly. Additionally, intentionally aiding someone (especially a minor) in circumventing the law is very likely to not be legal, especially when legality is largely determined by a jury, and especially^2 when the facts of the case against you are the most egregious that the government can find, especially^3…

showing a plastic card in a store to buy the yearly Cum Companion Calendar or whatever is one thing, because the clerk likely is not a savant with eidetic memory, whereas online there's this little thing happening called data processing which starts with the only thing we usually don't want with our ID. copying.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by retype »

ac29 wrote: post #33
buyucu wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For people who don't live in the UK, why should they care about UK law?

NextDNS is a company not a person. The have infrastructure in the UK and presumably have UK customers, so they should care about UK law.

The US also has multiple states that have enacted similar laws.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by echelon »

skyzouwdev wrote: post #37

That’s a bold move. Handing over IDs to random sites is definitely a privacy nightmare, so I get why you built this. The real question is whether it buys time for users or just accelerates the push for stricter regulation. Either way, it sparks an important conversation

> Handing over IDs to random sites is definitely a privacy nightmare

They just need to leak all of the elected official internet usage. You'll see this rolled back faster than it was implemented.

I really can't wait for the video titles of the porn our government officials watch to be read out loud by newscasters. That's going to be such sweet karma.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by [deleted] »

baby_souffle wrote: post #23

> We’re curious how the HN community feels about this. Is it the right way to protect privacy online, or will it just provoke regulators to push harder? Both. May the mouse forever elude the cat in this game! If you’re proxying all traffic, that’s going to get expensive and - in theory - makes you as easy to block as VPN providers. I wish you the best of luck!

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Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by dizhn »

combyn8tor wrote: post #38
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #5

I am a user of nextdns and okay, this is really neato team! I find this really interesting. If I may ask, what are the dns tricks, is there a blog post about what you added, I am sooo curious about what sorcery is nextdns using. Edit: I searched on ddg and there was a ghacks.net link and a alternativeto.net article and sadly ghacks was taking a long time to load and I just read the alternativeto.net article and it wa…

so does it work like this?: - Client makes a DNS request to ageblockedsite.com using NextDNS server - NextDNS server returns an IP to a proxy server they control - Client connects to the site through the proxy server

That's actually pretty neat. I thought they need software running on the client to do the proxying but this scheme doesn't need it.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by dlcarrier »

skyzouwdev wrote: post #37

That’s a bold move. Handing over IDs to random sites is definitely a privacy nightmare, so I get why you built this. The real question is whether it buys time for users or just accelerates the push for stricter regulation. Either way, it sparks an important conversation

At least outside of countries that already limit their citizens access to the internet, censorship regulations tend to apply only to providers, not end users, so it would be extremely difficult to go after an extraterritorial VPN provider. In the US, extraterritorial jurisdiction includes not just providers outside of the country, but providers outside of the state. For example, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquette_National_Bank_of_Min....

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by Ms-J »

petcat wrote: post #40
perihelions wrote: post #8

As a remark, not a criticism, such a deliberate promotion is probably illegal in the UK market, > "But Ofcom says platforms required to introduce "highly effective" methods to check user age must not host, share or permit content that encourages use of VPNs to get around age checks. The government has also told the BBC it would be illegal for platforms to do so." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn72ydj70g5o

> must not host, share or permit content that encourages use of VPNs to get around age checks. The government has also told the BBC it would be illegal for platforms to do so Holy. Crap. I knew the UK was going off the deep end with these laws, but this actually looks like China-level government reach.

Ignore the government crying. It is irrelevant when we spread the tech to get around their useless spying laws.
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