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OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

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Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

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I don't know about Illumos but setting up a Solaris 10 machine to provide block devices through multi path iSCSI was a breeze with all the tooling it had. No config files needed it was all command line. It was for a university lab and it was the only ever contact I had with Solaris 10 and later versions or forks. I was mildly interested once since it had KVM but support was Intel only so that kept me away. I remember…

Oracle ruined Sun Microsystems for sure, incl. OpenSolaris.

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

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As a Hoosier... I had to check the relevance... and learned it's basically a fork^3 of Solaris, a Sun operating system. OpenIndiana[3] Note: I guessed here at [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenIndiana [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illumos [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSolaris [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Solaris

There is OmniOS[1] as well, fits next to OpenIndiana. https://omnios.org .

Open Maryland, Not Indiana :) (So named in this case because the company that released it, OmniTI, is based in Maryland. Source: worked there at the time) It's a good OS, as I imagine the other Illumos derivatives are, but sometimes the relatively small size of the community can be felt, e.g. in breadth/depth of available third party packages and update availability/timelines.

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

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As a Hoosier... I had to check the relevance... and learned it's basically a fork^3 of Solaris, a Sun operating system. OpenIndiana[3] Note: I guessed here at [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenIndiana [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illumos [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSolaris [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Solaris

I have also used SmartOS, which imports KVM from Linux. It is odd to boot it and see sendmail running from my native ksh93 root login. https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmartOS

While we do still ship KVM on SmartOS, we've moved development over to bhyve - https://docs.smartos.org/bhyve/

using our package manager pkgsrc [https://pkgsrc.smartos.org/], you can install the MTA of your choice too!

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From: https://docs.openindiana.org/misc/openindiana/#what-is-the-o... > Why is it called OpenIndiana? > OpenIndiana obtains its name from Project Indiana, an open source effort by Sun Microsystems (now Oracle Corporation) to produce OpenSolaris, a community developed Unix-like distribution based on Sun Solaris. Project Indiana was led by Ian Murdock, founder of the Debian Linux Distribution. (I never understood the n…

Not sure if Ian Murdock had a say in the naming but his family was from Indiana.

I think what's important is that the name matches on /ian/.

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

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Did IBM consider purchasing Sun?

Yes, although IBM only wanted Java and was planning to cancel SPARC and maybe Solaris.

Makes sense given that IBM already had the POWER arch & AIX, which was based on BSD rather than SysV for Solaris.

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

#46

Wow. Illumos / Solaris is still kicking, eh? Really too bad Solaris didn’t stick around and was so horribly mismanaged by Sun. Solaris and Vax/VMS is where I started my career decades ago, and still brings back memories.

I'm really disappointed that Solaris picked a "let's screw Linux" license, relegating some otherwise interesting technologies to only run on Solaris, on permissive OSes like BSD, and on systems that don't care about license compliance.

There was nothing about screwing anyone involved in the choice of the license. The license had to be something all the copyright and license holders were prepared to accept (and getting them to accept CDDL was hard enough, not everyone did hence the few closed components).

Our belief was that Linux would be unlikely (and unwise as the overall system architecture is sufficiently different that it would be hard to port) to take the code. We expected - and encouraged - the concepts to be taken (as with the slab memory allocator).

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

#47

I have to say, that I really loved OpenSolaris. I really have to try OpenIndiana. Can anyone tell me about their package manager?

OI uses IPS packaging, which is the same packaging used by Solaris 11 (some find it over engineered). Tribblix, on the other hand, is also an illumos-based distro but is based on Solaris 10 (and prior’s) SVR4 packaging which is managed via a utility called “zap”. Both are good distributions, but I strongly encourage you to try Tribblix if OI is problematic; for whatever reason the latest OI installers do not seem to…

Thanks! Tribblix seems interesting at a quick glance. Does it have i3? Or is there a list of packages that I can see online?

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OI uses IPS packaging, which is the same packaging used by Solaris 11 (some find it over engineered). Tribblix, on the other hand, is also an illumos-based distro but is based on Solaris 10 (and prior’s) SVR4 packaging which is managed via a utility called “zap”. Both are good distributions, but I strongly encourage you to try Tribblix if OI is problematic; for whatever reason the latest OI installers do not seem to…

Thanks! Tribblix seems interesting at a quick glance. Does it have i3? Or is there a list of packages that I can see online?

It has 30 desktop options, including i3

The repo has a list of packages

http://pkgs.tribblix.org/

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Tribblix seems interesting at a quick glance. Does it have i3? Or is there a list of packages that I can see online?

It has 30 desktop options, including i3 The repo has a list of packages http://pkgs.tribblix.org/

I found it, thank you. :)
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