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Re: I'm worried it might get bad

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Post by phtrivier »

I'm curious at which point the AIs are doing all the jobs of corporations, so that they can sell their products and services to... no one, since everyone is unemployed ?

Or is the strategy of everyone to sell to the same 0.01% of the population ?

(Also, hilarious that the author mentions UBI as a potential solution. UBI is a massive transfer of wealth. Governements are elected nowadays on the promise of guaranteeing wealth is not transfered - see the recent tax bill in the USA ; and any mention of "taxes" in a political campaign.)

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

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Post by ponector »

mholt wrote: post #23

Don't worry -- soon after that, there will be high demand for human coders as companies scramble to hire to rewrite all the buggy and vuln-ridden AI-hallucinated software. We're on the verge of two revolutions in tech, not one.

There are many examples of buggy and vuln-ridden non-AI-hallucinated software. Never been a rush to fix them.

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

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Post by logicchains »

amilios wrote: post #13

Whats the rebuttal to UBI just causing massive inflation again?

I'm not a fan of UBI, but long term inflation is primarily determined by money creation rates. If UBI was funded by taxes, not printing, then we wouldn't expect any significant effect on long term inflation rates, although there might be some disruption in the short term.

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

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Post by matthewfcarlson »

philipkglass wrote: post #17
an0malous wrote: post #12

We’re damned both ways with AI. Either it’s a massive bubble that will pop or it does what it’s intended to do and automates a large portion of the workforce. Edit: removed a comment about Ai investors getting bailed out because it was secondary to my main point

Investors weren't bailed out following the pop of the dot com bubble. I don't think that AI investors will be bailed out afterward if this is another bubble.

Dot com pop caused significant repercussions for many people. I don’t think GP implied the AI bubble would get bailed out, just that if it pops, life gets unpleasant for lots of folks.

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

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Post by otikik »

> We start to see unrest and/or riots against "the rich" because there are no jobs, and people are being evicted

I am surprised this has not already happened. The combination of rampant inequality and lax gun laws (in some states) is very explosive.

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

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Post by agentultra »

I’m not confident that AI can be used in place of human knowledge workers.

If you’re in software and maintaining a React application front end I can see the appeal: it takes so much code just to add a button. And it’s not like the web platform is going to get good.

It’s automated copy-pasting from stack overflow and GitHub. That can be useful.

But it’s also pretty meh. Humans stop reading code deeply enough to catch errors when they read more than a couple hundred lines of code in an hour. Someone still has to be liable for those errors when they cause harm to customer businesses and assets. Maybe AI and agent tooling will get good enough to keep that error rate low enough to be tolerable.

But maybe not.

What is concerning is that capital is getting so much support from the state. Labourers are being left in the lurch. I think part of that “redistribution of wealth,” needs to involve getting capital to support and work with labour instead of just exploiting it and squeezing everyone dry.

It’s wealth inequality and climate at the end of the day.

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

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Post by Zigurd »

herodotus wrote: post #24

It might be informative to compare this with what happened when retailers introduced automated checkout machines. It seems that the net effect on staff sizes was not that dramatic. These stores need more anti-theft security people and some oversight. Not to mention the people they need for technical support. I wonder if there will develop a new category of skills for checking that AI produced code is correct, effecti…

They also need more people to restock abandoned carts because I'm not going to wait for two other people who got stuck in their automated checkout lines to get help from the one ineffective person who is stuck with the job of making this stupidity work.
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