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Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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People have every right to resist with maximum force to being taken without due process to a camp where they will disappear off the grid and paperwork system.

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Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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People have every right to resist with maximum force to being taken without due process to a camp where they will disappear off the grid and paperwork system.

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Constitution seems to disagree in plainly self evident English ...

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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People have every right to resist with maximum force to being taken without due process to a camp where they will disappear off the grid and paperwork system.

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Also ignoring the large proportion of citizens getting swept up with no due process or legal rights. We even have cases of citizens ending up in foreign prisons and only getting returned after extensive legal battles lead by Congress members... The average poor us citizen with no PR or viral marketing .... is just disappeared

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Welcome to the future. Minority Report's coming. How terrifying.

We're getting to the point where the thing making Minority report look unreasonable is that they had three (extremely drugged, troubled) humans making decisions as a consensus instead of just using an algorithm or a police officer's vibes. Nobody really doing these things today would slow down enough for that or risk someone having empathy and derailing the whole operation.

The last ten years have stuck out as a continuous loop of "this is so messed up it wouldn't be a believable/good movie plot".

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Geez, East Germany's State Security, but with supremely better surveillance tech, and AI. Curious how "Homeland Security" and "State Security" are equivalent names. Looking forward to a "Report suspicious neighbors"-program next. Your neighbor made fun of Trump? Report this unamerican activity to Kristi Noem!

Minnesota implemented this during COVID… https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/coronavirus-in-minnes... I’m sure there are also ways to anonymously report illegal immigrants to ICE as well. People are still free to criticize Trump all they want. The First Amendment is pretty clear on this.

American nationals whose parents are both Americans are safe. People in the US who are not full citizens are at significant risk. People who are American citizens by birthright are currently safe, but there are explicit plans to attack birthright citizenship.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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I feel the ship has sailed here. Once the police started to record every interaction with the public, along with their existing habit of placing traffic cameras left and right, they acquired enough data to track people. Trying to restrict the analysis of existing data is never going to work. The police can always point to some death that wouldn't have happened, if they had ran Flock's software on their surveillance f…

As an ex-Flock employee:

I was sold during the recruiting process on high ethics and morals and an idealistic vision.

The reality was a surveillance state, questionable policies on data sharing between agencies and private installations (HOA, etc.), and a CEO with a very literal belief that Flock should "eliminate all crime" - not "visionary" but far more literal. It was way too Minority Report for my liking.

They have a public "disclosure" site that supposedly shows the agencies using Flock that is absolutely inaccurate (there are three agencies in my County alone using it that are not listed there).

Any conversations about ethics and the other "should we even do this?" questions got consistently shorter and superficial during my time there.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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> People are still free to criticize Trump all they want. The First Amendment is pretty clear on this. In theory.

No, in actuality. People criticize Trump daily without fear of repercussions. He's not a king or a dictator. Much of his agenda is being put in check by the other two branches of government.

In theory, yes. In practice, he already has a long track record of leveraging his position, and the institutions it allows him to command, to enact personal vengeance upon his enemies. The examples are numerous, but one need look no further than Stephen Colbert.

Paramount paid $16 million to the Trump library fund to settle a meritless case, because of his ability to wield the FCC to squash their merger.

Colbert called this out on his show as rampant extortion by the Trump Administration, and they promptly cancelled his show.

Sure, you can argue that this wasn't a police/military act, and the government itself did not punish Colbert for his views and speech.

But in cronyism, especially under a regime actively trying to gut the federal government and allow private parties to assume it's functions, this becomes at best a nominal distinction. If you, in an official government capacity, can wield your power to enact vengeance on your opponents and dissidents, maybe even going as far as to diacriminate against entire states that vote against you (https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/trump-discriminati...), you have a mechanism with which you can quasi-legally (good luck fighting this one in court) punish Speech You Do Not Like.

For the average, or even exceptional person, this functionally amounts to a restriction on your speech. I am highly critical of Trump, but not under any avenue tied to my identity.

I am far from the only person who operates this way. The assertion that you can freely citizen the administration without fear of reprisal does not hold water.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Why would the police even inform you that flock was used?

Why? Because the prosecutor doesn't want all their work to go to waste because they didn't disclose Brady evidence. Even if they successfully argue that Officer Flock's reporting isn't exculpatory, they still have to do extra work to respond to a Brady motion for a case that already got a conviction.

Hah, as an ex-Flock employee, their transparency report is utter garbage. "Agencies using Flock." In my immediate vicinity, three County Sheriffs use it, but they are not listed. Several city PDs in my county also use it, but they are not listed.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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There are passive ways too on AliExpress like IR reflective sprays, coatings and films, but in my country, and I suspect in most of Europe, any intentional tampering with the legibility of your license plate is illegal and can land you hefty fines or even jail if caught.

They also don't help much any more. Not with cameras that do color, infrared, 4K or 8K video, high dynamic range, and vehicle make and model recognition.[1][2] In the first video, note the checkbox in the analysis program for displaying vehicles with "strange plates" which were in range for reading but not read. Trying to obscure a plate draws automated attention. Big Brother has AI, too. [1] https://www.youtube.com/…

Flock will use things like bumper stickers, tow hitches, roof racks, body panel color differences, wheels/rims, and window tints to add to vehicle identification metadata".
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