Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Open Lovable

github.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 59 posts

Re: Open Lovable

#41

Post by cal85 »

yencabulator wrote: post #37
cal85 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

also trademark registration is not remotely relevant here

What do you mean? It's literally the legal mechanism by which Lovable Labs Incorporated can prevent this guy from calling his thing open-lovable.

nope, fire your lawyer. you get a common law trademark by trading under a name. no need to register it. TM registration is just to streamline big corps chasing after lots of small abusers in a wackamole way, that’s all. if the abuse in question is as egregious as “I used their product name, barely modified, to market my own thing, which is not just in the same general market but a literal clone of their product” then a judge is not going to say “Ah but I see they didn’t send in a form to register their trademark, so yeah carry on with blatantly stealing their work lol”

Re: Open Lovable

#42

Post by yencabulator »

cal85 wrote: post #41
yencabulator wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? It's literally the legal mechanism by which Lovable Labs Incorporated can prevent this guy from calling his thing open-lovable.

nope, fire your lawyer. you get a common law trademark by trading under a name. no need to register it. TM registration is just to streamline big corps chasing after lots of small abusers in a wackamole way, that’s all. if the abuse in question is as egregious as “I used their product name, barely modified, to market my own thing, which is not just in the same general market but a literal clone of their product” then…

Lovable is a $1.8 B valuation company with $75 M ARR. Using some thousands of dollars to defend that stake sounds reasonable.

Re: Open Lovable

#44

Post by bravesoul2 »

cal85 wrote: post #41
yencabulator wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? It's literally the legal mechanism by which Lovable Labs Incorporated can prevent this guy from calling his thing open-lovable.

nope, fire your lawyer. you get a common law trademark by trading under a name. no need to register it. TM registration is just to streamline big corps chasing after lots of small abusers in a wackamole way, that’s all. if the abuse in question is as egregious as “I used their product name, barely modified, to market my own thing, which is not just in the same general market but a literal clone of their product” then…

I feel like "also trademark registration is not remotely relevant here" is a distracting statement then. Not necessarily wrong but easy for people to bikeshed over.

Re: Open Lovable

#46

Post by swyx »

rbren wrote: post #25
cal85 wrote: post #9

Wait is this a Lovable clone that is actually called open-lovable? That seems bold

Having started OpenDevin (now OpenHands [1]) I can say it's definitely worth renaming. It's very limiting attaching your branding to someone else's [1] https://github.com/All-Hands-AI/OpenHands

idk, do you think you would have gotten the start you did NOT being called opendevin?

(hi btw! see GP's talk on OpenHands here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_hhkJtlbSs&t=4s)

Re: Open Lovable

#47

Post by toddmorey »

cal85 wrote: post #9

Wait is this a Lovable clone that is actually called open-lovable? That seems bold

It's not really an "open lovable". I mean, there is of course a NextJS repo as part of it, but you need to bring your own API keys to an AI provider, as well as e2b.dev (sandbox, required) as well as firecrawl.dev (web scraping, oddly required).

It's the web scraping more than anything that makes me the least enthusiastic. I get that's the core of their business, but packaged this way, it's much less a loveable-style "build your vision" and more a "quickly copy another site". Just serving as a copy machine is the least interesting use of all this insane compute.

Re: Open Lovable

#49

Post by ErikBjare »

rbren wrote: post #25
cal85 wrote: post #9

Wait is this a Lovable clone that is actually called open-lovable? That seems bold

Having started OpenDevin (now OpenHands [1]) I can say it's definitely worth renaming. It's very limiting attaching your branding to someone else's [1] https://github.com/All-Hands-AI/OpenHands

I still sometimes have to refer to OpenHands as "formerly known as OpenDevin". It may be limiting in the long run, but it definitely had some short-term punchiness.

Re: Open Lovable

#50

Post by cal85 »

bravesoul2 wrote: post #44
cal85 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

nope, fire your lawyer. you get a common law trademark by trading under a name. no need to register it. TM registration is just to streamline big corps chasing after lots of small abusers in a wackamole way, that’s all. if the abuse in question is as egregious as “I used their product name, barely modified, to market my own thing, which is not just in the same general market but a literal clone of their product” then…

I feel like "also trademark registration is not remotely relevant here" is a distracting statement then. Not necessarily wrong but easy for people to bikeshed over.

fair I retract “is not remotely relevant here” and offer “is not really relevant here”
Post reply on HN