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Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

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Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

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post #28

Great news! I hope prices go back down a bit thanks to the extra capacity. I used to take Acela 3 times a week about a decade ago and they were rarely completely full. Now they're more expensive and fully booked much of the time, which is a real shame.

How is "full booked" a real shame?

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

#42
post #5

Finally! I saw these new trains stationed at Philadelphia Train Station. They're beautiful. I just wished they could operate at real high speed throughout the NEC.

I wish they had reasonable service through Pittsburgh to points west. The Pittsburgh station is sadly neglected.

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

#43
post #35

I have traveled a fair amount via Amtrak, and in general, I don't really like their newer cars. The old ones were fabric, huge bathrooms, spacious and comfy. The double decker ones had a feeling like you were almost in a traveling apartment. These new ones feel like the new plane interiors: more cramped, more plastic, etc. Nothing to scream at the sky about, but solidly a step down IMO. Maybe I'm just getting old lol…

The new Amtrak cars on Midwest and California service are made by Siemens. They are a huge downgrade in terms of customer comfort versus the old equipment. The seats are worse than a budget airline seat. This is in contrast to the old equipment where the coach seats were more comfortable than a domestic first class airline seat. The business class seats on the old trains were practically lay-flat, the new ones don't recline at all.

Unfortunately Siemens has become something of a monopoly outside of Asia and France for passenger trains and they've apparently decided that train travel should be uncomfortable, with bad seats and harsh lighting.

The upside to these new Acela trains is that they were built by the French railcar maker Alstrom, not by Siemens like the rest of the new Amtrak carriages.

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trains compete with highways, faster speed usually isn't the deciding factor.

That’s only true with short distances or crappy trains. I’ll drive DC to NYC rather than take the train, as it’s cheaper and not much slower. If Acela were a proper high-speed line I might switch. DC to Boston is close to a toss up, ~7 vs ~9 hours, but a proper high-speed train that did it in 2.5 hours would be really attractive.

I have to drive about an hour in the wrong direction to get to Amtrak from west of Boston. But I hate driving into NYC so I generally do it anyway rather than driving solo even though it takes longer and costs more.

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

#45

Unfortunately, this doesn't seem like it will speed up travel much at all. Based on my understanding, travel times in the northeast are limited not by the top speed of the trains, but by the tracks, and the fact that freight is prioritized.

Legally, freight is supposed to yield to passengers nationwide. It's in the legislation that created Amtrak over fifty years ago. It has never been enforced, and trump isn't about to do it. The UP/NS merger will make it worse. On Amtrak-controlled trackage, there is hope. Northeast Corridor is their show.

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

#46
post #14
post #4

> “NextGen Acela is more than a new train—it’s an evolution of travel,” said Amtrak President Roger Harris. Everyone's using ChatGPT these days.

Executives have been talking like that for a long time :)

I always wondered about that part of press releases. Why do they always claim some executive said a paragraph of text that they very obviously didn't say? Who are they supposed to be saying it to? Is it like a transcript of an imaginary press conference??

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

#47
post #21

Love how they mention they’re built in the US by union workers…likely at 10x the cost of making them elsewhere. Modern day unions in the US is not what you think they are. They are the reason why we can’t have fast infrastructure upgrades. People in Japan/Korea/EU figured it out why can’t we have them here in the US?

Hornell, New York isn't exactly a commerce center and wages in rural western New York are rather depressed these days. The last fast thing that came out of that region was the Hungerford Rocket Car over in Elmira, and that was a hundred years ago.

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trains compete with highways, faster speed usually isn't the deciding factor.

That’s only true with short distances or crappy trains. I’ll drive DC to NYC rather than take the train, as it’s cheaper and not much slower. If Acela were a proper high-speed line I might switch. DC to Boston is close to a toss up, ~7 vs ~9 hours, but a proper high-speed train that did it in 2.5 hours would be really attractive.

With modern high-speed rail and a fairly modest average speed of 200 km/h (taking stops into account, because modern HSR can go >350 km/h), it would only take 3.5 hours to get from DC to Boston (passing through NYC).

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

#49
post #41
post #28

Great news! I hope prices go back down a bit thanks to the extra capacity. I used to take Acela 3 times a week about a decade ago and they were rarely completely full. Now they're more expensive and fully booked much of the time, which is a real shame.

How is "full booked" a real shame?

Needing to book days in advance makes it unusable for short-notice trips (vs. driving), and due to the demand they basically doubled prices. It's now more expensive to take Acela than it is to take a plane; that wasn't the case a decade ago.
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