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Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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Is that a joke?

I bet he'd be pumped to know he created a community that's so counterculture it either doesn't know who he is, or disdains him. Actual lol.

Mark Zuckerberg created much bigger and more useful communities. Must be the better man. Actual lol.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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He says that this is not 10,000 lines of bug-filled crap… but, unless you are explicitly verifying and testing the code, how would you know? And, what kind of solution needs 10,000 lines of code added to it daily ? Then again, these could be separate solutions. but, still… this 10,000-lines-of-code-a-day thing seems strange.

Exactly. And I wonder why Paul Graham is jumping on such a statement. Of everything I've read by him so far, this has the least substance.

I suppose VC love it. They want to lower the bar to building products, and make them cheaper. They want a steady line of investable companies with cheap hiring down the line.

More generally, it's weird. 10 years ago, the technical aspects would legitimately be seen as a major, perhaps main obstacle to building a product. It's questionable whether that is really gone (can you really, really build a software product now with just LLMs? With deployment, security etc).

But for sure the technological bar is now much lower, it might disappear altogether, and what remains is actually finding a useful product, marketing, finding clients etc. Which I'd argue were actually always the biggest step to overcome.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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I stopped looking at my code about 2 months back. I am launching "Lets Order", a micro SaaS, entirely generated by Claude Code, Gemini CLI, Google Jules, etc. I follow a structured approach, using issues on GitHub, Git branches, etc. - as I have done as an engineer for more than a decade. Rust (backend) and TypeScript - Admin app (for managers), Menu app (for guests) and marketing site. SQLite database with LiteStrea…

Thanks for sharing this, very brave. Looking at the code, there is a good chance this codebase is vulnerable to SQL injection.

I will not be surprised if there is but that is not a problem that cannot be fixed with some effort. The point is if we can produce deploy-able, full-stack apps, which are manageable, this changes what it means for software and for startups.

I live in a remote village in Himalayas, WB, India that I am sure no one on HN has heard of. I got 5G based broadband that is flaky just a few weeks back. By the end of this year, I am sure I will be able to attempt 4-5 products and market them more than I have ever done in my 16 years of professional life.

Software development has changed, forever.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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I stopped looking at my code about 2 months back. I am launching "Lets Order", a micro SaaS, entirely generated by Claude Code, Gemini CLI, Google Jules, etc. I follow a structured approach, using issues on GitHub, Git branches, etc. - as I have done as an engineer for more than a decade. Rust (backend) and TypeScript - Admin app (for managers), Menu app (for guests) and marketing site. SQLite database with LiteStrea…

Neither of your demos actually launch when you press the buttons (Chrome on Android). Does this have users?

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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He says that this is not 10,000 lines of bug-filled crap… but, unless you are explicitly verifying and testing the code, how would you know? And, what kind of solution needs 10,000 lines of code added to it daily ? Then again, these could be separate solutions. but, still… this 10,000-lines-of-code-a-day thing seems strange.

I would say, if you're fully embracing AI altering code frequently, and want to do it safely...

Then a lot of things about the way code should be structured can change. If you're not editing by hand, and want to limit the scope of changes, and have AI tools to make future edits faster... THEN you can have a lot of redundancy in your code. You can just not have complex code that shares responsibility and instead have redundant repeated code that solves one problem differently.

It's not what I would advocate for every single part of every program, but many things now make sense to be structured in this way. Separate out concerns way more, and not try to have complex solutions that solve many problems at once, and favour repetitive code slightly more.

Much as you would structure a project if you had some junior programmers, you might have sections that only seniors should be touching - complex cores and difficult parts where you have way more oversight. And use more AI in the areas where you'd let juniors do scut work.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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I stopped looking at my code about 2 months back. I am launching "Lets Order", a micro SaaS, entirely generated by Claude Code, Gemini CLI, Google Jules, etc. I follow a structured approach, using issues on GitHub, Git branches, etc. - as I have done as an engineer for more than a decade. Rust (backend) and TypeScript - Admin app (for managers), Menu app (for guests) and marketing site. SQLite database with LiteStrea…

Neither of your demos actually launch when you press the buttons (Chrome on Android). Does this have users?

No, it is not live yet. I am launching this hopefully in a week.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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Neither of your demos actually launch when you press the buttons (Chrome on Android). Does this have users?

No, it is not live yet. I am launching this hopefully in a week.

Good luck! Great to see people having a go. Save a screenshot of my cynicism to send me when you make bank.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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I bet he'd be pumped to know he created a community that's so counterculture it either doesn't know who he is, or disdains him. Actual lol.

Mark Zuckerberg created much bigger and more useful communities. Must be the better man. Actual lol.

Huh?

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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Thanks for sharing this, very brave. Looking at the code, there is a good chance this codebase is vulnerable to SQL injection.

I will not be surprised if there is but that is not a problem that cannot be fixed with some effort. The point is if we can produce deploy-able, full-stack apps, which are manageable, this changes what it means for software and for startups. I live in a remote village in Himalayas, WB, India that I am sure no one on HN has heard of. I got 5G based broadband that is flaky just a few weeks back. By the end of this year…

The design is fundamentally flawed, with queries in close to hundred .js files.

Perhaps you marker and sell a few, but it looks insecure and would be hard to refactor.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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I bet he'd be pumped to know he created a community that's so counterculture it either doesn't know who he is, or disdains him. Actual lol.

Counterculture? Do you think you have to be counterculture not to know who Paul Graham is? What the fuck lol. Ask anyone outside of your little bubble and they won't have a fucking clue. Edit: The above was needlessly confrontational. I don't know you and it was uncalled for. I just fucking despise Silicon Valley.

You know where you're posting, right?

Not know who he is funny, not counterculture.

Having disdain for him is getting there.

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