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Skeuomorphism is the easy way out

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Re: Skeuomorphism is the easy way out

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Skeumorphism is no more an "easy way out" than black Helvetica on a white background is an "easy way out". They can both be used appropriately, or used badly and in excess. The address book in OSX is an example of bad skeumorphism -- it's a fake book with pages that don't actually turn, trying to shoehorn "advanced" computer technology into a visual representation that doesn't work. It's a bad metaphor, a bad analogy…

Wow, that 'kudos nipple' is terrible. It's not even clear what's happened after the rather unclear "don't move" instruction.

The first few times it happened to me, I felt that I had been manipulated into "approving" of the article, when I felt no such approval. It was abusive.

Now, whenever I visit a new Svbtle blog, I block that whole element so I never accidentally vote again.

Re: Skeuomorphism is the easy way out

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, that 'kudos nipple' is terrible. It's not even clear what's happened after the rather unclear "don't move" instruction.

The first few times it happened to me, I felt that I had been manipulated into "approving" of the article, when I felt no such approval. It was abusive . Now, whenever I visit a new Svbtle blog, I block that whole element so I never accidentally vote again.

You can click on it to undo the kudos.

Re: Skeuomorphism is the easy way out

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Skeumorphism is no more an "easy way out" than black Helvetica on a white background is an "easy way out". They can both be used appropriately, or used badly and in excess. The address book in OSX is an example of bad skeumorphism -- it's a fake book with pages that don't actually turn, trying to shoehorn "advanced" computer technology into a visual representation that doesn't work. It's a bad metaphor, a bad analogy…

> The "Notes" application on OSX is a fantastic use of skeumorphism.

I think good skeumorphics are called "affordances", while skeumorphism is being used as a prerogative term ("indiscriminate affordances").

There's no reason for a new word. Affordances are ancient. Bad affordances (especially crappy media players) are ancient.

"Apple" and "media needs a new trend to carp on about" are the only reason to start using a new term for them.

Re: Skeuomorphism is the easy way out

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Skeumorphism is no more an "easy way out" than black Helvetica on a white background is an "easy way out". They can both be used appropriately, or used badly and in excess. The address book in OSX is an example of bad skeumorphism -- it's a fake book with pages that don't actually turn, trying to shoehorn "advanced" computer technology into a visual representation that doesn't work. It's a bad metaphor, a bad analogy…

I'd agree that the address book skeumorphism is a pretty terrible option - seems to be more about design bling than addressing usabiblity. OTOH the "head-shaking" of the OSX login window when you enter a bad password is some of the best skeumorphism I've seen, and yet there are no visual design elements (like putting ears on the window or something.)

The "head-shaking" is not skeumorphism.

Re: Skeuomorphism is the easy way out

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There's bad skeuomorphism, and there's good skeuomorphism. In the end of the day, it's a personal option, and it really depends on the type of product/site/interface you're designing.

I've designed a mobile application that is skeuomorphic, with the intent to resemble the original one, being this one of the goals of my client, and I justify it well enough to make sense. Even though it's a skeumorph looking app, not really a skeuomorph interface.

But you must admit, skeuomorph isn't that bad when used properly and with caution. There are some good uses to it. And I don't like extremes, I'm not with the "Skeuomorph all the things" team, and neither with the "Skeuomorph is evil", because I believe there's a time and place to everything, but it must be used with obvious moderation.

Re: Skeuomorphism is the easy way out

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Hit the (skeuomorphic) nail on the head.

There are many forms of skeuomorphism, and it's important to distinguish them from each other. Visual kitsch is cheap in a different way to outdated metaphors that hold back the possibilities of digital product design; a well-used affordance should not be dismissed because of its visual design and neither should a beautiful piece of 'Photoshop art' be allowed to get away with broken & confusing metaphors.

- Visual kitsch the crap on Dribbble that throws in random textures for the hell of it, no match-up to a real-life object. No particularly jarring interactions, just looks tacky. I guess Find My Friends goes here?

- Visual kitsch, broken interaction iCal, iBooks, Address Book etc - visual kitsch and an interaction skeuomorph. Pages not swiping properly in Contacts/Address Book (and having scrollable UITableViews on a piece of 'paper'), full stack of pages left at the end of an iBook, iCal 'tearing pages off' but then they're still there when you swipe back etc.

- No visual skeuomorph, just interaction skeuomorph (not so bad) Google Calendar - one month per page rather than an infinite scroll (ala Calvetica). An easy 'affordance', but holding interaction design back nonetheless.

- Visual kitsch, non-broken interaction skeuomorph Remember that hyper-realistic eBook reader a couple of months ago? Relative to iBooks the interactions actually matched up - the stack of pages on the right hand side of the page decreased the further you went into the book. It afford familiarity without being damaging and confusing like iBooks and Contacts, but it was still a weak grasp at the past.

- Outdated metaphors Newsstand on iPad upsets me. We have a fantastic platform capable of totally redefining how we consume content and we present magazines & newspapers as 1:1 icons of their printed counterparts on shelves? I wrote more about this here: http://designedbygold.com/2011/10/the-metaphors-breaking-the...

This isn't to say die-hard modernism is the way forward - I have my doubts about Metro too. It's just posturing; even Jan Tschichold said that typography should bear the hallmark of it's age (and strict Swiss design definitely isn't a product of 2012).

This does mean that skeuomorphism and as-it-was-in-print modernism are both wrong, but I think we knew that anyway. What we need is an appropriate visual- and interaction-design language for the times. One rooted in tactility; one that learns from the past but doesn't replicate it.

Re: Skeuomorphism is the easy way out

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"Skeuomorphism helps people misunderstand the capabilities and limitations of digital products based on their understanding of a physical analog." Right. Nothing sets hard limits in a user's mind then guiding them to use a piece of software through a terribly flawed metaphor. My father learned to use computers in the mid-90s when he was in his 60s and his chosen tool was MS-Excel as it most closely represented the le…

Did he use grid paper to do the schedule? Excel is really not very skeuomorphic. One variation on being more skeuomorphic would be that it came with various templates one of which looked like a typical work schedule sheet, but leveraged excel's strengths of automatic calculation. That skeuomorphic move would have helped him realize the possibilities and he could have achieved self actualization and gotten that extra…

Originally he did. It was a large format, expensive custom grid paper designed for the kind of old fashioned production scheduling he used to do.

In general it was a grid, but the cells weren't square, they were wider so that there was more room to write, and along the top and left side were various specialty cells for tracking schedule numbers, days of production, reference numbers, various call-outs and along the left side room for specific machines and machine operators to be inserted. He used a fairly sophisticated color coding sytem to show linked jobs as they moved through the queue and hopped machines, so a red diagonally striped cell on one machine represented the same job later in the day on another machine also using a red diagonally striped cell. It basically allowed him to plan execution of production pipelines similar to thread execution on a modern day processor.

He had to hand draw the legend on every sheet and all of the setup. And since it was all pens and markers and such, a small mistake meant redrawing the entire schedule. I remember growing up watching him sit in front of the TV working on his production schedules late into the night.

I agree that Excel in general is not terribly skeuomorphic, but like I said elsewhere in this comment, skeuomorphism is a gradient and Excel was just similar enough to a paper book-keeping ledger of old that he thought that it would only be useful to him in that sense never realizing it could replace the custom production schedule grid he managed until quite a bit later.

edit it was not too entirely different from this

http://preoccupiedbymoonlight.blogspot.com/2010/06/productio...

only quite a bit more complex and larger format, and in the end looked almost calico colored there were so many production pipelines at once on it (vs. this example with only one real pipeline)

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