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British man claims he's unable to watch porn as tattoos confuse age check system

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

cookiengineer wrote: post #37
wand3r wrote: post #3

This is a pretty wild story but also an illustration of just how dystopian the world has gotten. The UK has gone completely bonkers with this "real id to use the internet" law. In the US Google is using a crazy AI algorithm to prohibit people under 18 from viewing some content on YouTube. Obviously, the stated purpose of the policy is good IMO. However, I can't help but take a cynical view that Google is using this a…

What honestly blew my mind was the whole Cookies debate. - EU introduces law, making thirdparty tracking cookies illegal - Every advertisement tracker switches to CNAME based first/secondparty cookies - EU judges decide they are illegal by default, too, without explicit consent - Google pushes out Federal Learning of Cohorts (FLoC) prototype, and essentially saying they track so much of the internet, they don't even…

I'm not sure that's right. I thought it was:

- Google pushed out FLOC.

- The Internet freaked out.

- Google withdrew FLOC.

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Post by linux2647 »

NL807 wrote: post #20
jordanb wrote: post #18

There's this Deep Space 9 episode called Past Tense. The crew goes back to 21st century earth to find that being unemployed is illegal and they quickly get put in a ghetto with other indigents. At one point they're trying to get on the internet (the show was aired in 1995 so they predicted the 21st century internet) but they can't login because you have have a real identity and be a citizen in good standing (so nobod…

If I remember correctly, that time point in those double episodes was a turning point in Start Trek lore that changed Earth's history for the better.

It was a turning point, but Star Trek lore also had Earth go through World War III before things actually got better

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Post by dmix »

roncesvalles wrote: post #27
dmix wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may…

See also: Religion

That quote came from one of his essays on theology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_the_Dock

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Post by datameta »

linux2647 wrote: post #42
NL807 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I remember correctly, that time point in those double episodes was a turning point in Start Trek lore that changed Earth's history for the better.

It was a turning point, but Star Trek lore also had Earth go through World War III before things actually got better

And the self-descriptive Eugenics Wars...

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Post by o11c »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #9

I'm still confused about the purpose behind these laws. Are there still adults stupid enough to think that watching porn will mess a kid up? Because there's now two whole generations of kids who have grown up watching porn (my generation, and the one after). So far younger people don't seem any more fucked up than people were before, only the older people seem to be getting worse.

> Are there still adults stupid enough to think that watching porn will mess a kid up?

This absolutely is a real problem, especially for younger kids. Have you talked to a teacher? Think things like "a kindergartner runs around grabbing teachers' tits and saying "I want to ..." lines you'd expect from a rape work like 50 Shades of Gray. It is neither in the child's interest nor in the interest of society at large to let that happen. And for every case that's as obviously bad as that one, who knows how many come off as creeps or even manage to appear normal from the outside, while suffering the trauma internally?

Remember, the status quo on the Internet is no control at all. Real-world sex businesses aren't allowed to get away with that, why should the Internet be exempt from laws? Just because the government is slow and incompetent to get started doesn't mean we can stick with "self-regulate, aka no regulation at all".

We can argue about exactly what the law should be, and we can argue how it should be implemented, but there absolutely must be something.

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Post by tokioyoyo »

StanislavPetrov wrote: post #39
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #9

I'm still confused about the purpose behind these laws. Are there still adults stupid enough to think that watching porn will mess a kid up? Because there's now two whole generations of kids who have grown up watching porn (my generation, and the one after). So far younger people don't seem any more fucked up than people were before, only the older people seem to be getting worse.

>So far younger people don't seem any more fucked up than people were before, only the older people seem to be getting worse. If you look at levels of depression, sexual disfunction the steep drop in relationships and dating among younger people and other metrics you could argue the exact opposite, although obviously there are other factors (social media, ect) in how "messed up" generations are besides the widespread…

> there are other factors (social media, ect)

"Other factors" is doing a heavy lifting here. I don't have a skin in this game, but politicians are scared to touch the elephant in the room (smartphones + social media), because they know they'll get a flack instantly. I don't think porn consumption among teenage girls are high, yet their depression rates are high as well.

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Post by smcin »

bji9jhff wrote: post #23
smcin wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily, it's desirable for articles to be accessible from work and corporate firewalls, and lists of banned words exist. This was already the case before streaming services or TikTok existed.

I think the existence of a corporate firewall filtering words like "porn", or any word actually, is part of the steep surveillance he's talking about.

I understood what he claimed, but it's neither a GenZ/Gen Alpha thing, nor did it start with streaming services or TikTok.

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Post by boothby »

roughly wrote: post #11
_qua wrote: post #4

I mean...if the system accommodated that appearance it would have been one of the best designed systems in the world. There are a lot of edge cases here.

Welcome to government work - that dude’s not an edge case, he’s a constituent.

Moreover, I've known a few people with extensive facial scarring due to burns. I suspect that they're treated the same as this guy, but the story isn't nearly as "fun."
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