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Re: Stargate Norway

#41
In the past few decades, data centers have been placed with latency in mind - ie. Typically you don't want to be more than 1000 miles from users.

However, in the world of AI, latency is already 1 second plus, so the economics change - you do better to build where there is cheap electricity and free cooling.

I forsee Iceland as a good place to invest.

Re: Stargate Norway

#43
post #10

I do not understand why they chose Norway. I would choose a country where it is easy to build up a new power plant quickly with solar and wind, close to the site of the data center. Maybe they just have too much electricity up there that is not needed by the population or existing industry?

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Re: Stargate Norway

#44

If this doesn't require chevrons to lock and connect to remote gate through a wormhole, they can't call it Stargate. That's just lying otherwise

Yeah a stargate must be something that gives the humanity new superpowers, like exploring other planets in distant parts of the galaxy, not yet another AI slop factory.

Re: Stargate Norway

#45
post #10

I do not understand why they chose Norway. I would choose a country where it is easy to build up a new power plant quickly with solar and wind, close to the site of the data center. Maybe they just have too much electricity up there that is not needed by the population or existing industry?

A big reason to not do it lower down in europe is also just that it's naturally very cold in northern norway so you already save on energy that would be needed to cool it. Meta has datacenters at around the same latitude but in sweden for the same reason.

Re: Stargate Norway

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post #45
post #10

I do not understand why they chose Norway. I would choose a country where it is easy to build up a new power plant quickly with solar and wind, close to the site of the data center. Maybe they just have too much electricity up there that is not needed by the population or existing industry?

A big reason to not do it lower down in europe is also just that it's naturally very cold in northern norway so you already save on energy that would be needed to cool it. Meta has datacenters at around the same latitude but in sweden for the same reason.

It'll be a bit less cold in northern norway with this thing - accelerating ice cap melt and sea level rise.

Doomsday cult.

Re: Stargate Norway

#47
post #10

I do not understand why they chose Norway. I would choose a country where it is easy to build up a new power plant quickly with solar and wind, close to the site of the data center. Maybe they just have too much electricity up there that is not needed by the population or existing industry?

Well, for one they have a lot of money and would be a good customer for a government AI

Re: Stargate Norway

#48
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A big reason to not do it lower down in europe is also just that it's naturally very cold in northern norway so you already save on energy that would be needed to cool it. Meta has datacenters at around the same latitude but in sweden for the same reason.

It'll be a bit less cold in northern norway with this thing - accelerating ice cap melt and sea level rise. Doomsday cult.

All of modern life does that. AI could also bring some solutions instead of just perpetuating problems. And on a cost per intelligence token basis it's obscenely cheap anyway.

Re: Stargate Norway

#49
Have we as a species considered that the very last thing we need given our climate crisis and already near-apocalyptic state (fires, floods, storms - it's biblical!), is some risky tech bro vanity project gamble eating up the rest of our resources and accelerating the death of our species?

That maybe the attempt of capital to finally replace pesky labor with cheap machines isn't worth risking it all?

No? Guess it's time to scream into the void some more.

Re: Stargate Norway

#50

Norwegian news seem to think this is a semiconductor manufacturing plant.

They probably did a direct translation of this: «Stargate Norway is planned to deliver 230MW of capacity, with ambitions to expand by an additional 290MW. The facility will target to deliver 100,000 NVIDIA GPUs by the end of 2026, with the intention to expand significantly in the years ahead.» Makes it sound both like a power plant and a semiconductor factory..

Wow by “deliver” they mean “slurp up”, no? That’s some enthusiastic greenwashing right there!
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