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Re: Scammers unleash flood of online gaming sites

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Post by bena »

ovulator wrote: post #29
ryandrake wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand who keeps falling for this stuff. The victims are not all 90 year old grannies suffering from cognitive decline.

Large of law numbers. There are a lot of idiots out there. I had a buddy; super nice, super funny guy, late 20's, but financially an idiot. He sent a $1,000 check as "collateral" to some online "bank" to get a $10,000 "loan". I explained to him that this isn't how any of this works and he just paused and said, "Huh, so should put a stop payment on the second check?" He had sent them another $1,000 as some sort of sec…

Eventually they would have collected $20k of collateral for the loan

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Post by tantalor »

cyanydeez wrote: post #37
tantalor wrote: post #7

> the gaming site will reject the request and prompt the user to make a “verification deposit” of cryptocurrency — typically around $100 — before any money can be distributed This is called "advance fee" scam. It is hundreds of years old. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam

Well, anyone who has $100 crypto bucks has already been scammed once.

A fool and his crypto are soon parted!

Re: Scammers unleash flood of online gaming sites

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Post by nottorp »

eddythompson80 wrote: post #35
fknorangesite wrote: post #20

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This (i.e., gambling specifically) is a very common definition of the word "gaming". Certainly that predates online video games, obviously.

You can’t call negative things gaming. You can gamify anything, but if it’s negative you can’t call it gaming. Gaming is always good and never causes any problems. Plenty of research shows that gaming is good. Please stop villainizing gaming. Gaming is good. If it’s negative, just call it what it is. Gambling, addiction, radicalization, etc all are just that. They have nothing to do with gaming. Gaming is good. Media…

> You can gamify anything

Actually gamifying is as predatory as gambling so what's your point again?

Re: Scammers unleash flood of online gaming sites

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Post by eddythompson80 »

nottorp wrote: post #43
eddythompson80 wrote: post #35

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You can’t call negative things gaming. You can gamify anything, but if it’s negative you can’t call it gaming. Gaming is always good and never causes any problems. Plenty of research shows that gaming is good. Please stop villainizing gaming. Gaming is good. If it’s negative, just call it what it is. Gambling, addiction, radicalization, etc all are just that. They have nothing to do with gaming. Gaming is good. Media…

> You can gamify anything Actually gamifying is as predatory as gambling so what's your point again?

Don’t call it gaming. Gaming is good and has nothing to do with gambling. What is your point?

Ok look. If you put poison in food, it ceases to be food. It’s just poison at that point. Calling it food or even poisoned food is only an attempt to besmirch the good name of food. Food is always good for you. Any food that’s not good for you by definition isn’t food and no one can mistake it for food and any attempt at calling it food is just dishonest. Even having a discussion about food safety is nothing but a slippery slope to ban food they don’t like. Food is good.

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Post by brookst »

quickthrowman wrote: post #36
don_neufeld wrote: post #31

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I get between 5-10 per day, so I’d say you’re just lucky.

Are you recently divorced? Just curious if public filings like divorce decrees would make someone a target for pig butchering scams.

The cost to operate is so low I can’t see why they’d bother targeting?

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Post by zahlman »

ryandrake wrote: post #8
chihuahua wrote: post #3

A random website asks me to give them my cryptocurrency, and then they refuse to return it? Why, I thought I had seen the most shocking thing on earth, but this takes the cake!

I don't understand who keeps falling for this stuff. The victims are not all 90 year old grannies suffering from cognitive decline.

One would think that the latter group aren't generally holding crypto in the first place.

Re: Scammers unleash flood of online gaming sites

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Post by zahlman »

eddythompson80 wrote: post #35
fknorangesite wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This (i.e., gambling specifically) is a very common definition of the word "gaming". Certainly that predates online video games, obviously.

You can’t call negative things gaming. You can gamify anything, but if it’s negative you can’t call it gaming. Gaming is always good and never causes any problems. Plenty of research shows that gaming is good. Please stop villainizing gaming. Gaming is good. If it’s negative, just call it what it is. Gambling, addiction, radicalization, etc all are just that. They have nothing to do with gaming. Gaming is good. Media…

> You can’t call negative things gaming.

Tell that to the government of Canada.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-197.ht...

Words can have different meanings in different contexts.

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Post by onesociety2022 »

technothrasher wrote: post #34
ryandrake wrote: post #8

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I don't understand who keeps falling for this stuff. The victims are not all 90 year old grannies suffering from cognitive decline.

I've got a coworker who fell for, "You won a free electric drill from Home Depot! Click here and enter your credit card". I discovered his predicament when he was telling me how he managed to get an overseas vendor to agree to reduce a credit card charge he didn't recognize in half. That got me to pull a bit on the thread and the whole story unraveled. What it came down to, apparently, was simple gullibility. He didn…

But all he had to do in this case was dispute the fraudulent charge on his credit card? Credit cards in that sense are a lot safer than anything crypto - you have the opportunity to dispute and reverse the transaction. And it's easy to do as well - it just takes a couple of seconds to login to the credit card website and file the dispute.

Re: Scammers unleash flood of online gaming sites

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Post by supermatt »

ryandrake wrote: post #39
alt219 wrote: post #26

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Sadly, I have a family member who is susceptible to these types of scams. They’ve been duped too many times to count. They’re overly eager to believe they’re exceptional and that good fortune is due them. No amount of explaining has had any impact on their beliefs for the past fifteen years. It’s heart-wrenching.

I can almost understand the replies to this thread where the victim was never exposed to a scam before and didn't know what to look for. It still sounds wild but I guess people are sheltered. My kid was scammed out of some virtual pet in an online game at six years old and learned that whenever someone offers something to you, but requires you to give up something first, it's a scam. But how does one get scammed over…

> whenever someone offers something to you, but requires you to give up something first, it's a scam.

Don’t you usually pay for things before you receive them when shopping legitimately?

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