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‘No Other Land’ consultant Awdah Hathaleen killed by Israeli settler

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

xdennis wrote: post #32
oulipo wrote: post #11

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Even if "genocide" is an overstatement, that doesn't make it right. That doesn't make individual actions less than murder. That doesn't make the overall policy less than oppression that is killing many people.

This isn't a total either-or. It can be "not genocide" and still be wrong.

Now, if you want to make the argument that Hamas has put Israel in the position that they have to totally destroy Hamas, and Hamas has entwined itself among the civilian infrastructure to the point that massive civilian casualties are the only possible outcome, that might be a defensible argument. "Not actually a genocide", while technically correct, isn't going fly very well.

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Post by idiotsecant »

wafflemaker wrote: post #19

Last night I went to bed late and my wife had trouble sleeping. She said that she is afraid of the world where a state can decide that they will plannedly un-live whole other nation and nobody is willing to do anything about that. We're both from the country where most of the planned un-living of the First Holocaust were performed. We recently discussed how in a street poll, half of Polish population couldn't solve a…

Good thing you removed all the double plus ungood badthink from your post citizen, your corporate owners thank you and remind you to reward yourself with a cool, refreshing Pepsi-Cola!

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Post by echelon_musk »

dijit wrote: post #39

That's really sad. The Isreali man really should not have been there, but I have to recognise a couple of things. 1) I don't know what anyone is saying except, ironically, plea's of someone near the camera man asking the Israeli man to "Shoot me". 2) I do not know what lead up to this confrontation 3) I have been in a circumstance before where a large group of people are acting frantic and in a threatening way and it…

From watching the video it doesn't appear although anyone other than the settler was armed.

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Post by adhamsalama »

xdennis wrote: post #28
cess11 wrote: post #10

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Defending? You mean colonizing. And Israel literally did terrorist attacks on Jews in Arab countries to make them flee to the newly occupied land.

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Post by A_D_E_P_T »

xdennis wrote: post #32
oulipo wrote: post #11

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> Genocide is the intentional targeting of civilians. You have no proof of that.

Look at satellite images of Gaza. Consider how people there actually live, in temporary tent cities with little access to food, clean water, and medical treatment. Consider also the extent of "accidental" civilian casualties -- with more deaths among Gazan women and children than among Hamas fighters. Then consider that these unarmed civilians are essentially stateless and should, by rights, be under Israel's protection.

How do you see them living in five years? Almost nothing is left standing in Gaza.

It's not (yet) an out-and-out war of extermination, but it is, emphatically, already a profound moral and humanitarian catastrophe -- and a stain upon the soul of the Western nations who are standing by to watch it unfold.

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Post by jojobas »

wafflemaker wrote: post #19

Last night I went to bed late and my wife had trouble sleeping. She said that she is afraid of the world where a state can decide that they will plannedly un-live whole other nation and nobody is willing to do anything about that. We're both from the country where most of the planned un-living of the First Holocaust were performed. We recently discussed how in a street poll, half of Polish population couldn't solve a…

Are you suggesting that the 91% that can solve some tasks in the street are descendants of Jews or priests/nobles/landlords?
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