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Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

#41

Does Canada not have Lemon laws that force the company to take back the car after a certain number of defects?

Only Quebec has a specific "lemon law". Which this person appears to be in Quebec, so it may be applicable -- I'm not positive about the eligibility requirements to invoke it.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

#42

Volvo sadly no longer stands for Swedish quality and safety. What you’re buying is essentially an overpriced Chinese car with Volvo stickers. And I’m saying this as a Swede. Buy German cars, specifically within the Volkswagen auto group (Audi, VW, Skoda etc) if you want reliable quality.

> Buy German cars

Take this with a grain of salt (since it's not first hand experience), but I have heard from friends that the quality of German cars has degraded significantly

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

#43

Volvo sadly no longer stands for Swedish quality and safety. What you’re buying is essentially an overpriced Chinese car with Volvo stickers. And I’m saying this as a Swede. Buy German cars, specifically within the Volkswagen auto group (Audi, VW, Skoda etc) if you want reliable quality.

Not even, BYD and other Chinese car companies make great, reliable cars. This is simply Volvo intentionally and likely knowingly cheating out as much as possible to make a quick buck, burning their brand in the process

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

#44
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Insane that Volvo doesn't just replace the car. The cost is trivial compared to the brand damage here. The complaint is so well documented and the customer is not being a jerk at all; not sure what Volvo's logic is.

They would need to replace all faulty cars after that. They want to avoid that.

I'm guessing that's every car.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

#46

I mean, the issues with this car are pretty well documented, so it feels like this person is really using the website (and the HN exposure, successfully), to extract the refund from Volvo that they need want. Likely rightfully so, since the ex90 subreddit is full of people invoking lemon law successfully.

I don't know. Apparently he's using a law firm to receive its refund. The HN exposure seems to be there just to ... expose the facts to the public. Looks more like a sort of revenge/public safety announcement to me (saying "don't buy Volvo").

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Doesn’t Canada have a lemon law? Most US states have a law that says if you have to bring a new car in 3 times for the same issue in the first X months of ownership, that they have to accept a return and refund you, or give you a new one.

No, Quebec does but other provinces just rely on standard consumer protection laws. At least the last time I looked into it. I think some provinces have some additional vehicle-specific laws, but no comprehensive "lemon law" as such.

This person is in Quebec (or seems to be - highway 13 is in Montreal and the car was bought in the city of Mount Royal which is a suburb of Montreal (city status nitpicks notwithstanding, it’s unequivocally in Quebec). )

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

#49

I really want to like volvo, especially their plugin hybrids, but their bad reliability of late is a dealbreaker. No way I'm wasting my life in mechanic hell. I'm patiently looking to upgrade from my great 2018 subaru forester xt touring, but nothing new seems much better.

I was so excited to get my S60 PHEV. Mechanically it is an amazing machine, great handling, great power, I rarely have to put gas in it. BUT. It is a nightmare with the technology. Like most new cars, everything is tied into the center display/computer. It will crash while driving, which will remove all sound from your car, and I don't mean just the radio/spotify/whatever. You can be in mid-turn with your turn signal…

Yeah, had my XC90's center console crash/reboot in the middle of a highway drive, very disorienting and unnerving.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

#50

Volvo sadly no longer stands for Swedish quality and safety. What you’re buying is essentially an overpriced Chinese car with Volvo stickers. And I’m saying this as a Swede. Buy German cars, specifically within the Volkswagen auto group (Audi, VW, Skoda etc) if you want reliable quality.

Aren’t Japanese cars the gold standard of reliability? Or has something changed?

To be honest, it has never been about pure brand. Every brand has had clunkers and has had great models.

Having said that, Toyota is known for their reliability, and Volvo (+ Polestar) was / are known for their safety.

Just to emphasize the point: Nissan is doomed because generally no one wants their cars, but they have perhaps one of the greatest bang-for-buck EVs outside of Chinese brands: the Leaf 2.

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