Does Canada not have Lemon laws that force the company to take back the car after a certain number of defects?
Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience
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#42Volvo sadly no longer stands for Swedish quality and safety. What you’re buying is essentially an overpriced Chinese car with Volvo stickers. And I’m saying this as a Swede. Buy German cars, specifically within the Volkswagen auto group (Audi, VW, Skoda etc) if you want reliable quality.
Take this with a grain of salt (since it's not first hand experience), but I have heard from friends that the quality of German cars has degraded significantly
Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience
#43Volvo sadly no longer stands for Swedish quality and safety. What you’re buying is essentially an overpriced Chinese car with Volvo stickers. And I’m saying this as a Swede. Buy German cars, specifically within the Volkswagen auto group (Audi, VW, Skoda etc) if you want reliable quality.
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#44Insane that Volvo doesn't just replace the car. The cost is trivial compared to the brand damage here. The complaint is so well documented and the customer is not being a jerk at all; not sure what Volvo's logic is.
They would need to replace all faulty cars after that. They want to avoid that.
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#45The site is very nice and pretty thorough.
Makes me not want to get this car or any Volvo!
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#46I mean, the issues with this car are pretty well documented, so it feels like this person is really using the website (and the HN exposure, successfully), to extract the refund from Volvo that they need want. Likely rightfully so, since the ex90 subreddit is full of people invoking lemon law successfully.
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#47Doesn’t Canada have a lemon law? Most US states have a law that says if you have to bring a new car in 3 times for the same issue in the first X months of ownership, that they have to accept a return and refund you, or give you a new one.
No, Quebec does but other provinces just rely on standard consumer protection laws. At least the last time I looked into it. I think some provinces have some additional vehicle-specific laws, but no comprehensive "lemon law" as such.
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#49I really want to like volvo, especially their plugin hybrids, but their bad reliability of late is a dealbreaker. No way I'm wasting my life in mechanic hell. I'm patiently looking to upgrade from my great 2018 subaru forester xt touring, but nothing new seems much better.
I was so excited to get my S60 PHEV. Mechanically it is an amazing machine, great handling, great power, I rarely have to put gas in it. BUT. It is a nightmare with the technology. Like most new cars, everything is tied into the center display/computer. It will crash while driving, which will remove all sound from your car, and I don't mean just the radio/spotify/whatever. You can be in mid-turn with your turn signal…
Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience
#50Volvo sadly no longer stands for Swedish quality and safety. What you’re buying is essentially an overpriced Chinese car with Volvo stickers. And I’m saying this as a Swede. Buy German cars, specifically within the Volkswagen auto group (Audi, VW, Skoda etc) if you want reliable quality.
Aren’t Japanese cars the gold standard of reliability? Or has something changed?
Having said that, Toyota is known for their reliability, and Volvo (+ Polestar) was / are known for their safety.
Just to emphasize the point: Nissan is doomed because generally no one wants their cars, but they have perhaps one of the greatest bang-for-buck EVs outside of Chinese brands: the Leaf 2.