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Re: Australian anti-porn group claims responsibility for Steams new censorship rules

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Post by Diti »

Acrobatic_Road wrote: post #26

If only we had some kind of purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash that would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution.

How do you get that electronic cash in the first place without going through a financial institution?

Possibly by trading with someone who already has electronic cash, I guess – but how do I know I’m not laundering the other person’s money, and/or financing terrorism or CSAM with my fiat money?

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Post by [deleted] »

NewsaHackO wrote: post #11

Is there anything that can be done with the weaponization of the payment system? Cryptocurrency as obviously failed, but is there really no possible recourse when every traditional payment method seemingly colludes to not take the business for whatever reason?

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Re: Australian anti-porn group claims responsibility for Steams new censorship rules

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Post by Cantinflas »

zeld4 wrote: post #27
miyuru wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Cryptocurrency as obviously failed I don't think cryptocurrency has failed. Yesterday I successfully payed with crypto when the payment with multiple credit cards failed.

Cryptocurrency is on the way being managed by govt. So it's correct to say cryptocurrency did not fail, but certainly the original libertarian vision behind it is dead.

Is the govt going to manage your private keys any time soon? How would that work?

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Post by Aerroon »

NewsaHackO wrote: post #11

Is there anything that can be done with the weaponization of the payment system? Cryptocurrency as obviously failed, but is there really no possible recourse when every traditional payment method seemingly colludes to not take the business for whatever reason?

Why can't governments do it? Have a digital cash. Something that works like cash that the government runs. They already handle physical currency, so why not digital?

Add in some really heavy handed rules that government can't use it to spy and maybe it will work.

Also, these people really should be shamed for their censorship.

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Post by coliveira »

speeder wrote: post #5

An interesting article I saw today in Portuguese language, is speculating that the real reason USA is threatening to tariff Brazil in 50% is because the invention of "Pix Parcelado" that is supposed to go online soon, will reduce the popularity of Mastercard and Visa, and thus remove an important tool of censorship from US government hands. Lula also himself accused the USA of putting tariffs because of credit card c…

It's not speculation, Mr. Trump started an investigation against Brazil and one of the items is the Pix system which he considers it's going against US interests.

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

whatshisface wrote: post #35

One of the reasons that credit card companies have an incentive to keep this stuff off people's statements is that they sell your credit card histories on the data market, and would not want you to have a strong reason to want to stop them.

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Post by tonyhart7 »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #21
NewsaHackO wrote: post #11

Is there anything that can be done with the weaponization of the payment system? Cryptocurrency as obviously failed, but is there really no possible recourse when every traditional payment method seemingly colludes to not take the business for whatever reason?

Removing the middlemen is the most obvious solution, but they’re also amongst the most powerful players in the world, so it’s going to be challenging (to put it mildly). See: https://www.taler.net/en/index.html

-removing middleman

-also introduce new middleman

I don't think that works honestly, its just move a new money into new player everyone want to take a cut

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Post by simion314 »

woodpanel wrote: post #31

> All these porn sick brain rotted pedo gamer fetishists so desperate to get their hands on rape-my-little-sister incest games they’re now exchanging clues on how to find them so that they don’t all die overnight," Collective Shout co-founder Melinda Tankard Reist tweeted on July 18th. Which begs the question: Is it true, that there are such games? And how would one defend its availability to the public? Is w#nking o…

>Which begs the question: Is it true, that there are such games? And how would one defend its availability to the public? Is w#nking off to such content considered free speech?

We are discussing blocking of legal content by the payment companies. If they do not like this games or GTA or metal music they should make laws.

But they are concerned by virtual incest while in USA cousin marriage is still legal in many states.

If i believe in this stupidity that music and games are harmful then I would use the big money to do some studies to prove this and then make laws, not force my ideology by abusing the payment monopoly this companies have to push my stupidity to the entire fucking world.

Re: Australian anti-porn group claims responsibility for Steams new censorship rules

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Post by freedomben »

Cantinflas wrote: post #43
zeld4 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cryptocurrency is on the way being managed by govt. So it's correct to say cryptocurrency did not fail, but certainly the original libertarian vision behind it is dead.

Is the govt going to manage your private keys any time soon? How would that work?

Yes. There are tons of different proposals, but generally speaking the common thread is that the banks (possibly The Central Bank) will keep the keys for you. They will still be middlemen in all transactions so they can harvest data and make sure you aren't buying anything the government doesn't like. They can also do tax enforcement a lot better that way
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