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It's rude to show AI output to people

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Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#42

It's deeply sad to me that I will never again be able to read a message from someone and know, for sure, that it was written by them themselves.

You can if you can watch them write it :)

You have to watch them do it IRL because the video feed can also be generated now.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#43
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https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Wow. What a good giveaway. I wonder what others there are. I occasionally use bullet points, emdashes (unicode, single, and double hyphens) and words like "delve". I hate it think these are the new heuristics. I think AI is a useful tool (especially image and video models), but I've already had folks (on HN [1]!) call out my fully artisanal comments as LLM-generated. It's almost as annoying as getting low-effort LLM…

Maybe I'm misunderstanding - but I don't think LLM's say cow-orkers. Or is that what you mean?

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#44
post #38

While I understand this sentiment, some people simply suck at writing nice emails or have a major communication issue. It’s also not bad to run your important emails through multiple edits via AI.

Is it too much to ask them to learn? People can have poor communication habits and still write* a thoughtful email.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#45
Could not agree more!

> "I asked ChatGPT and this is what it said: ". ... > "I vibe-coded this pull request in just 15 minutes. Please review"

This is even nice. You have outlined here an actual warning. Usually there is none.

When you get this type of request you are pretty much debugging AI code on the spot without any additional context.

You can just see when text/code is AI generated or not. No matter text or code. No tools needed.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#46
post #29

I couldn't disagree more. Its like someone going to Wikipedia to helpfully copy and paste a summary of an issue. Fast and with a good enough level of accuracy. Generally the AI summaries I see are more topical and accurate than the many other comments in the thread.

Really!?

[0] https://i.imgur.com/ly5yk9h.png

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#47
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. What a good giveaway. I wonder what others there are. I occasionally use bullet points, emdashes (unicode, single, and double hyphens) and words like "delve". I hate it think these are the new heuristics. I think AI is a useful tool (especially image and video models), but I've already had folks (on HN [1]!) call out my fully artisanal comments as LLM-generated. It's almost as annoying as getting low-effort LLM…

Use two dashes instead of an actual em dash. ChatGPT, at least, cannot do the same--it just can't.

As a frequent user of two dashes.. I hate how people now associate it with AI.

Also, that "cow-orkers" doesn't look like AI-generated slop at all..? Just scrolling down a bit shows that most of them are three years and older.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#48
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. What a good giveaway. I wonder what others there are. I occasionally use bullet points, emdashes (unicode, single, and double hyphens) and words like "delve". I hate it think these are the new heuristics. I think AI is a useful tool (especially image and video models), but I've already had folks (on HN [1]!) call out my fully artisanal comments as LLM-generated. It's almost as annoying as getting low-effort LLM…

Use two dashes instead of an actual em dash. ChatGPT, at least, cannot do the same--it just can't.

Conventionally, in various tools that take plain text as input, two dashes is an en-dash, and three dashes is an em-dash.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#49

LLMs are very very good at adding words in a way that looks "well written" (to our current mental filters) without adding meaning or value. I wonder how long it will be before LLM-text trademarks become seen as a sign of bad writing or laziness instead? And then maybe we'll have an arms race of stylistic changes. --- Completely agree with the author: Earlier this week I asked Claude to summarize a bunch of code files…

One of the largest issues I've experienced is LLMs being too agreeable.

I don't want my theories parroted back to me on why something went wrong. I want to have ideas challenged in a way that forces me to think and hopefully lead me to a new perspective that I otherwise would have missed.

Perhaps a large portion of people do enjoy the agreeableness, but this becomes a problem not only because I think there are larger societal issues that stem from this echo-chamber like environmental but also simply that companies training these models may interpret agreeableness as somehow better and something that should be optimized for.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#50

The problem here is that I’ve been accused multiple times of using LLMs to write slop when it was genuinely written by myself. So I apologized and began actually using LLMs while making sure the prompt included style guides and rules to avoid the tell tale signs of AI. Then some of these geniuses thanked me for being more genuine in my response. A lot of this stuff is delusional. You only find it rude because you’re…

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